the dishwasher here. There's no machine.

Good luck! I hope the new one does the job. Are you friends with heylisa? She shared a really interesting and informative video on maximizing your dishwasher a while ago.

Atropos: I missed the video, I'll have to look for it. Did a ton of research on Consumer Reports, narrowed it down to 2 and went to look at them last night. It was between a Bosch and a KitchenAid...I wonder if Bosch has dropped their quality since CR reviewed them, because user reports weren't good and I wasn't impressed with the machine.

Kitchenaid on the other hand seemed much sturdier and better built.

And user reports loved it.

I might need a new one too.

I have a (relatively) new Bosch and love it, but it is a few years old so perhaps they have gone downhill since. I hope the Kitchenaid is marvelous!

I had a Whirlpool for 17 years at my former house and no telling how long it was there when we moved in. It was great. So I ordered a Whirlpool for my new house. It’s been working perfectly. And I have a Bosch duel fuel cooktop and oven which I love.

Bosch is top of the line. I’m glad you are looking at all the reviews. Our new one is a GE, but we got it for a fraction of the retail cost. My son had one sitting on a loading dock for over a year. His boss named a low price and we grabbed it!

I was really leaning towards Bosch at first, but there were so many bad reviews on it (500 series was the one I was considering). It and the Kitchen-Aid are almost identical in features, except the Kitchen-Aid is self-cleaning and the Bosch is manual and has Wifi (I get wifi for stove and refrigerator, but dishwasher seemed unnecessary).

Did you get the additional top shelf? We splurged on the third rack with our current dishwasher and we love it.

I recently bought a Bosch and it is AMAZING. super quiet, does a fabulous job

Our Bosch dishwasher is over 20 years old now and still working without issues.

Nice! I don't have a working dishwasher. I'll have to see if I can search up the article I don't remember posting.

I can't find it. I post lots of stuff and article titles don't search well. Once I learned that I started adding some context to posts.

Ddaisy: We did! Also got one that's self-cleaning (one of the biggest complaints I read about the others was that it would get clogged easily, self-cleaning avoids that issue.

Teeg Atropos heylisa maybe this one:Your dishwasher is better than you think (tips, tric...

am the dishwasher myself ~

What’s a dishwasher?

starfiresilverstar: Something no one in our house is very good at being. Our compromise (begun during covid) was buying paper products, until we did the math and realized a good dishwasher (the kind that says you shouldn't rinse your dishes before loading them), was cheaper than always buying disposables, and better for the environment too.

Oh totally agree. I would love one but I have absolutely no place to put it. I’m stuck using right and left to wash instead

beken: Does yours have a lot of plastic parts? That was the clincher for me. All the moving parts were plastic and felt flimsy. I was afraid it'd break after we raised or lowered a rack a few times, or just pulled a rack out.

Teeg: mine has a steel lined interior. The trays are metal, coated in enamel or plastic like material, but the wheels are plastic. Other parts are plastic also. The bottom drain has a metal screen over it so everything underneath is protected. The dishwasher has held up well over the 20 or so years.

Teeg: We chose the Bosch because it was the quietest of all the dishwashers we looked at. We did not get the least expensive model. It was one of the more expensive ones.

beken: I looked at the 500 & the 800 models. In the 1000-1250 range. The 500 was rated higher on CR than the 800, so narrowed it down to that one and the Kitchenaid. Both Bosch and KA are steel-lined, but KA also has metal wheel-coverings, metal slide for raising and lowering the middle rack, and coated racks.

If it had been sturdier or coated,

the Bosch would have been my first choice. I did pick up the 5 year warranty though, just in case.

Quietness isn't as much of an issue, both our offices are upstairs and the kitchen is downstairs. The KA is supposed to be okay, although probably not as quiet as the Bosch would be.

Teeg: I think Kitchenaid appliances were always very well built and should last a long time. They are also a bit more expensive. We have a Kitchenaid mixer and love it. My thoughts are to buy one with the fewest computer chips in them. Physical parts can be fixed or replaced. Once a computer chip or buss wire fails, the whole thing is tossed.

beken: That makes perfect sense. I still haven't figured the reason you'd need wifi on a dishwasher. LOL

if nothing else you can use the dishwasher as a drying rack...

DevSpamNull: That's what we were doing with the old one.

Yeah this whole WiFi thing in all of the appliances just seems crazy to me. My fridge doesn’t need to surf the internet!

the wifi stuff is both good and bad from a security perspective
everything has a computer in it running some os
if it can't talk to the outside it can't get updates of any kind
never getting patched is bad, m'kay
however, if they didn't get the security right, access from the outside is bad, m'kay