what is an anti?

The people always screaming about underage anime girls

Or calling ships like Shiro/Keith from Voltron incest because one of them said "you're like a brother to me" once

Like to run around doxing and sending death threats to fanartists

People like to talk a lot of shit about them on Plurk but visibly distance themselves from anyone speaking up about them because "what if people think I'm a pedo"

if you disagree with them misusing the term 'pedophile', they say you're lying about being a csa survivor

but hold on, i feel like i have an explanation buried somewhere that goes in depth on how they got that name and their deal....

It started as anti-[insert ship here]. I know, because Tumblr smushed the "IchiHime" and "anti-IchiHime" tags together like 7 years ago

Now they claim it's short for anti-pedophilia but lol I didn't forget, fetuses

but tldr would be people who think that fiction has a far greater effect on reality than it does, and so the only good media (fanmade or not) is 'pure'

if you've heard of 'purity culture' in fandom spacesw, that ties in a s well

Yes, that

At it's heart, it's about controlling other people's creative output to put your preferred ship or hc at the top.

And lol guess who hasn't RPed in 2 years and has no CR to lose by calling anyone who bows to that shit while hating it a fuckin weenie?

ah okay

I've also found a trend of it tying in with the "anti-fujoshi" movement, which sounds vaguely good on shallow theory - no fetishization of gay couples

but that shit gets twisted quick, from calling any rival ship something just 'fujoshi' make popular/like (experienced that, lmao) to lots of sexism, homphobia, and transphobia

- oh and racism

^^^^^

Also constant misgendering of fundashi and fujin as "stupid cishet women"

Like I've literally had someone I met on DWRP, who rped smut with my 16 yo in canon character, who was crying about antis targetting her incest stories, say she couldn't be seen publicly with me because I ship ZackRay

you get a lot of wild bullshit coming out of their mouths in order to be Pure

....I miss it when RP was fun

Make your porn kid-friendly!

i've seen this more in other fandom spaces than dwrp, fortunately

they hate ao3, as you can imagine

Also you may only write about your own gender and sexuality! If you're NB or Ace, fuck you since those are hardly ever canon anywhere!

Someone recently got banned from one game and lost all their CR in another for having a pro-ship discourse Twitter, so DWRP isn't immune

hhhh

Well, daaaamn

It was a thing of time that the anti/antio-anti slap fight arrived to DWRP

i wish there was a better name than "pro ship" or "anti anti"

bc "i'm a csa survivor and think antis beliefs and methods are absolutely vile and also cause more harm to csa survivors than any noncon fic" doesn't roll off the tongue

I still see them on Dumblr (whenever I remember to check in)

And they're SO ACTIVE on Twitter.

Make your porn kid-friendly!

Never forget when teenagers were demanding to have their own space in the Dramatical Murder fandom. FREAKING DRAMATICAL MUDER, dammit.

Oh, they're in fucking Hannibal fandom now lol

AoD fandom is basically solely dedicated to shipping a nasty 20 yo ace serial killer with either a 13 yo or yourself, so we basically formed a barrier against antis.

We still occasionally get them, but they leave quickly

Wait.... I didn't know anti was strictly talking about pedophiles now? I guess in the western fandoms

like i said: it covers a lot of topics tbh

but accusations of "pedophilia" or "pedophilic ships" come up a lot on this end, it's true

rape, abuse, and incest are also regular targets in the "if you write or enjoy fic with this, You Are Satan". things are regularly twisted, in a variety of ways, to fit any of these definitions.

Ahh, yeah. People do love them some morality judging.

mmmhm

ugh, yeah, fuck, i've seen at least a couple of those types of stories

I've tried to have reasonable conversations with people who trip into that line of thinking, because, like.... man i can't just leave people falling to that cult ass shit

but that all relies on if they are even remotely open to any kind of conversation

but that's been on tumblr.... because i hate twitter's format alkdjsfas and i didn't realize dw had such a problem with it

could I ask what the games were? if you're up for pp-ing those or whatnot

burn wg to the ground and salt the ashes

i can imagine, god

although somehow i am not surprised at prisma.... duplicity definitely made me blink. but this probably isn't the plurk for game chatter

I wish you luck getting through to people. I know how it can be a motherfucker.

I'm relieved that I can recall at least one person who listened to me when I had a conversation with them.

I'm sorry they're in the hannibal fandom? the fandom whose most pervasive joke is that them being cannibals is the least offensive thing about the hannigram murderhusband ship. that fandom

you poor soul

Yeah, Tox and the other Fanexus mods have laid out that they're gonna do everything in their power to prevent minor contact with MAPs, but like... they aren't psychic

Also yall can chat in here idc lol. I don't have notifs on.

no worries

This reminds me of a post I'd read just recently where someone was frustrated because fandomentalists (my favorite term, because it gets to the heart of the matter) were destroying the distinction between words like "romanticizing", "normalizing", "perpetrating", etc

wg is a shitshow, it's true. i'm glad i basically never look at it.

no worries. prisma has been having a lot of issues, from what I hear along my tl (although take that with a grain of salt, as I don't rp there)

/nod

it always fucking sucks when that kind of thing happens

agreed. it's one of the reasons i constantly flick through the ao3 tag on tumblr - or did before it's absolute garbage update where pageification is trashed

if there's anyone who is up for conversation, i can at least try

i did get the kid and their friends who spammed my inbox once, but i also got someone to consider that writing darkfic is not always a sign of Being Satan

so, like, honestly? i'll take that

that cult surroundiiiiiiing- YPU

that one thread on how one stopped being an anti really tells a lot, i think

i mean, if you go to certain anon pages on DW, some of them are anti's on the low, so

I mean it's not as bad as tumblr or twitter, but with some people there's an... undercurrent.

> "man i wonder if i should be more outspoken about how much antis are fucking trash"
> remembers that i posted this plurk literally this week
> "nevermind i never shut up"

glad to help

also one day, and probably soon tumblr gonna go kaput and we are gonna get some of their RP folk, so WE MUST KEEP ON PATROL.

the sorta ppl that say they care about survivors, people that aren't cishet, media crit, and POC. But also condescend to survivors, say that certain reclaimed words don't mean shit, they support hot-take media criticism that frankly turns people off thinking about what they consume, and they call POC slurs for supporting the wrong thing.

the type of people that scream about pedos and fetishization and important stuff like that but aside from tormenting people like them, they don't have actual answers.

these people don't have answers for grooming, pedophila, racism, fetishization, sexism, transphobia or any of the problems in fandom. What they have is the 4chan playbook, which should throw up some red, vermillion ass flags.

Holy shit. I just learned a lot. I'm not in RP or twitter or any social media besides plurk. I'm just absorbing this from afar.

LOL educate aggressively.

It's needed. From what I read. Very badly.

it looks like the whole twitter conversation link no longer works? I went to go check it again and can't access it