TW inclination of su!c!de in fiction
Honestly both Stans are su!c!d@l in different ways
Stan literally caused there to be a gravestone with his name on it and a funeral for him
In Journal 3, Ford repeatedly said that his mission was to defeat Bill or die in the effort, and there was the whole thing of him flat out refusing to ask for help

Like Stan would have believed him if he'd told him he was being possessed
but Ford's bigger priority was getting the journal away from him first

Ford isn't as concerning as Stan, of course
But a martyr complex does usually speak to deeper issues

Stan's line of "I guess I was good for something after all" and Ford's Journal 3 line of "I'm a hero's brother, and I'm okay with that" worry me in different ways
Because they're both defining themselves wrong

They both need someone to sit them down and tell them "you did have good accomplishments that you need to give yourself credit for" (Stan) and "you are not defined by your accomplishments" (Ford)

which all comes back to Filbrick Pines being a horrible p@r3nt
And Caryn Pines too
Everyone rags on Ford for closing the curtains (as they should) but they don't seem to understand that if Caryn couldn't convince Filbrick to let Stan stay, Ford really couldn't

and if she didn't try to convince Filbrick, she's an enabler

good job Caryn and Filbrick, neither of your sons are treating themselves like people

Honestly the accomplishments speech works for both of them

Stan: yeah I'll make. I'll make millions of dollars. That should make up for mistakes and being a kid, right? (:
Ford: 12 PhDs! Internationally ranked thesis! Haven't slept in a week and I think I'm hooked on coffee but I'm making up for an innocent mistake and for not making my p@r3nts money (:

If Caryn and Filbrick were good, Stan and Ford wouldn't have had any bad effect on Mabel and Dipper at all
Heck, the apocalypse might not have even happened

...I just saw a comment that said "imagine how anticlimactic it would have been in the finale if the memory ray had just bounced off Stan's glasses like in The Last Mabelcorn"