so i brought up rogue one lmao

and dude is like "it invalidated a new hope because a new hope is about a hero defeating an all powerful evil and having someone INTENTIONALLY putting a flaw in the death star changes everything!!"

not about a retcon but it thematically

i'm gonna beat that dude's ass

to which several of us pointed out that if anything the intention makes the empire more arrogant because they knew erso was sus and didn't do anything to stop it

him: empire arrogant
us: ok but this makes it more obvious just how arrogant
him: no not like that

i was gonna say that is LITERALLY the dumbest take, because if anything the fact that they overlooked what galen erso built into the design reinforces the themes and the empire's arrogance and them being the architects of their own downfall what the hell

lensflares: you should it is so deserved

he is so wrapped up in like luke's magic heroic plot armour and the unbeatable machine of the empire that somehow any of the Little People doing anything at all ruins the illusion for him i guess

he wanted the flaw in the death star to be "naturally designed"

posts the entire chat who cares

no one reads my plurk lmao

LMFAO OK DUDE even literally in 1977 the story wasn't about luke accomplishing everything alone, it was all about the other people who also got him there

YES GOOD THANK YOU

star wars has literally always been a story about community action and rogue one and andor only served to reinforce themes that have been there since 1977 and that's why they were good!!

lordt

because i can acknowledge the heroism without ignoring everyone else this isn't hard like???

this is basic hero's journey shit my dude

so i dropped the instruments of destruction fic because it's excellent and i no longer want to have this argument but god

of all the rogue one discourse i was bracing for it wasn't this lol

what the fuck is that take lol

oh my god??????

how's it feel to be so wrong

it's like we were watching two different movies

also someone came in at the end like
"bro you always have these weirdly 'sympathetic to the fascists' takes"
since it sounded like his issue was that galen erso made the empire look less powerful

empire lost sucks for u