Look, I'm joking. I do get what people see and call attractive.

I just almost never feel that way past: yeah, that art looks super cool or yeah, that person look symmetrically pretty. I enjoy looking at them.

LOL Look. We (almost) all have The Exception To Our Rule.

Then there's the rare occasion where I look at something and go: ooooooh I think I understand what they mean by hot now.

Also, I call that "Aesthetic Attraction," which is also very much something I have.

Also this is mostly me just wanting to go: PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS ART AND APPRECIATE THE ARTIST'S HARD WORK WITH ME

But hooboy, Vash is sure up there, huh? Preeetty boy. And not in the demeaning way, either.

Especially when he looks super serious like in that art. OH MAN that one's so good!

I love the serious expression Vash art. I mean, I do love my goofy stuff, but sometimes I get tired of the woobie. BOY CAN BE SERIOUS TOO

Give me a growling Vash with a slight lip curl.

Yeah, same. Plus, the serious stuff really is just closer to a lot if the way he was in Trimax, which is my favorite version. Sure, he had moments of goofy and woobie, but he was also so, so angry a lot of time.

yeah the ace experience is like. oh they’re hot. i don’t want to fuck them but they are indeed pleasing to lay my eyeballs upon

I think that's part of why I loved this art so much: You get the feral goofy 98 Vash, the precious babyboy Stampede Vash, and Trimax Vash just being all big, protective, serious brother over the other two. The best of all worlds.

Yes! I love how great it is that you can tell the 3 Vash's apart just by the expression that so many artists nail. Even without the different hair styles

YES. XD The differences can be very subtle at times, but they're there, and they're all really fun!

And when artists get it right, it's so good.

also you can't tell me Max Vash wouldn't keep having to yank 98 around by his collar when he started misbehaving, so many times, and it makes me laugh.

"Ohhh, hey, she's a cute-ACH!!!" "What have we told you..."

The pathetic whimpering would have no effect on him. It's his own tactic. He sees right through it, so stop!

Just because I know you're a Vash/Wolfwood shipper:

Imagine Stampede Wolfwood getting the pouty faces of all 3 Vash's and Trimax Wolfwood just sighing as Stampede gets flustered before showing how yoh deal with it. with violence

JCNAKHCAHAHAHAHA Yes.

I feel like even prickly Stampede Wolfwood would be a smidgen less quick to resort to clocking them upside the head because they were pouting.

Not Trimax. Sucker punches are his love language.

Same with 98

Yeah, though he's just less angry in general, It seems?

Or - is it they sucker punch Trimax and 98 and then they all fall weak to Stampede?

He is DEFINITELY less angry, but I can see 98 Wolfwood doing it more out of rough housing then say anger

aand I can see Wolfwood smacking Stampede Vash would make Trimax Vash's reaction go from whining to cranky lecturing about not hitting people. Don't hurt the baby of the family! He's still a baby! Wait, what do you mean you're older than the other one? Wait HOW ARE YOU TWENTY YEARS YOUNGER THAN BOTH OF US???

HDKFHAHAHA yes, that is a strong possibility, too! The older Vashes get smacked, meanwhile 98 Wolfwood is the one who goes after Stampede Vash because he's the one with a softer touch and will wrestle him down instead of smacking.

Wrestling is fine. They all know he's whining and throwing a fuss, but he actually enjoys the rough-housing a bit. Like a puppy getting wallowed on.

Some days I wish I could draw well enough to put the ideas in my head onto paper

Saaame.

i could see tristamp wolfwood being punchy bc he's a feral baby

I'm a better writer than I am a 2d artist, though, so that's why I just try and rp my thoughts out. lol

Yeah, I can see him being punchy, but not as punchy as Trimax Wolfwood.

In my head, I imagine the Trimax boys continuing to be each other's affectionate tormentors, while 98 Wolfwood would leave 98 Vash to Stampede Wolfwood because 98 Vash is enough of a dumbass to push the right buttons to trigger Stamp Wolfwood's punching reflex, and it would leave the less-prickly 98 Nick to deal with the wibbly baby Stamp Vash, instead. XD

Though lol it'd be more of a "Yeah, I'm leavin' that mess in your hands." "What? Why me??? He's your friend!" "Eh, you got this." /Snickers and walks away/ situation.

(Maybe he's just using it as an excuse to get to ruffle the hair of the one brother that doesn't keep it gelled into razor-sharp needles...XD;;; )

I love the idea of a Wolfwood being a grimlin by letting their Vash torment another Wolfwood

lol lbh, they so would. I feel like at least one of the Wolfwoods would totally enjoy pestering the other two. XD

If not just general antagonism from all three in one way or another. They're all assholes in their own way.

Though...now I'm imagining the emotional damage meeting 98 Wolfwood would have on Trimax Vash (especially one with black hair) just because it'd be a glimpse into what Trimax Wolfwood might have been like, if he hadn't been tortured as a child. Still had a shitty person raising him, but he didn't have.../vague gesturing at Trimax Woowoo/ All of that.

And he really does seem to be just a lot softer than the other two, even with his assholery.

I actually think 98 Wolfwood is my favourite out of the lot and Trimax Vash is my favourite out of the 3.5 (poor always forgotten Badlands Rumble)

I honestly just think of BLR as an extra long anime episode, personally, though I know it's technically supposed to be its own timeline. But yeah, Trimax Vash is my favorite Vash, too. I think Trimax is my fave Wolfwood, too, but I might be biased because I rp him. lol

At the very least, I feel like he's the most tragic, so far.

>_>

*acethetic attraction

Kayjayyy: lol nice. I hadn't ever noticed that.

my faves are stamp and trimax tbh

the tragic backstories are so peak

like im still waiting for stamp to give us the full Tesla Fallout

Right? If they show us baby Vash almost being the brother who went homicidal stab-happy while also being high-key suicidal, I will go feral.

That was one of those most fucked up, upsetting moments in the manga that made me realize just how messed up both of them really are.

And the realization that Vash almost went the exact same way Knives did was absolutely terrifying.

Had to actually go back a page to make sure I wasn't confused about which brother I was reading in that scene.

give me feral murder-suicide babyvash i want it so bad

Yessssss

i still think about how that incident and following conversation with rem is the reason vash cares so much about protecting humanity now

Yeah. She helped walk him back from that ledge. You could tell he was still wary about whether she was safe or not, but she let him see that things weren't really as purely horrible as his trauma was telling him it was and helped bring him a little back to himself so he could start to heal (as much as that poor kiddo ever got to heal, at least.)

Also, lbh; humans name their roombas and give them beds to sleep in. The fear and danger that they'd be dissected like lab rats is so valid, but there's also just as much of a chance that if they'd been able to get the kids away from the doctors who sanctioned and insisted on the Tesla experiments, they could have been accepted very easily, especially

when they were older.

You have a little wide-eyed, cuddly, affectionate kid babbling at you about the hobbies they like and how much they want to just be friends with everyone, a not-insignificant portion of humanity would just turn into a momma/daddy bear.

Then, you find out that they're "different" and it puts them at risk of being hurt by the less-kind portions, a good number of those won't just daddy-bear, they'll fight to protect them so hard.

It's one of the reasons the backstory is so sad, honestly. They never got the chance to see the better parts of humanity before everything went right to shit. A bad situation could have been fixed with a little time and care, but NOPE. TIME TO WRECK EVERYTHING AND WATCH IT GO UP IN FLAMES And as young as they were, Knives' reaction is so

understandable.

genuinely my favorite thing about vash is that he doesn't actually disagree that humans are dangerous

he's not out here like they did nothing wrong, they were justified

he just thinks they can change and it's worth trying to effect that change

but knives thinks they'll all be destroyed in the waiting

like i think a lot about how rem was part of the experiments and she always regretted it. she was the evidence right there for the potential of human change

Yep, he knows humans can be horrible and they can and have done horrible things. Hell, even as a child, he was the more timid, nervous one in the manga, he didn't seem to actually believe that they would be able to be accepted at first. But he just wants so much for them to be given the chance to be better, and he's seen it happen and knows they can,

so it helps reinforce what Rem taught him and makes his convictions even stronger.

And yeah, seeing that deep, soul-crushing remorse in Rem when she finally came clean was probably a very good start to everything for Vash, how she was obviously so guilty and broken up about it and how terrified she was for them and breaking so many rules to go against what she was supposed to do to keep them safe.

I don't know if that would have helped Knives, or if he just broke differently in such a way that it couldn't be mended before he did what he did, but at the very least it helped Vash.

(I'm out so not commenting much, but it's a treat to keep coming back to this plurk)

I still always wonder if Knives really did have amnesia when he first woke up. His sharp slide from bubbly and loving everyone and wanting to be their friends when they woke up into such nihilistic, homicidal tendencies so quickly seems a little extreme for just being told what happened and not remembering the thing he found first-hand.

And +1 to having to go back a page to make sure I was reading about Vash and not Knives

zigzag123: XD hey, just so long as my rambling isn't too much!

I'm always happy for people to ramble in my plurks!! Ramble away!

I just don't want my lack of responses to be seen as anything other than AFK

Also ugh oh man, the guilt Vash had to have as an adult, remembering how he almost killed Rem just. I NEED A MOMENT OK

How much he hates the thought of killing and how killing Legato literally broke him, I imagine the memory of that brief moment of just...utter, unhinged, bright glee over having stabbed her must make him absolutely sick.

zigzag123: haha yeah, honestly, that's what I figured it was. XD I'm just...in the middle of my shift, and it's a slow night as always, so I'm totally free to just BRAINSPLODE all over this. Oops.

i think that's why vash goes to such extremes to avoid it

<.< I'd normally be at work, but I had a job interview and took the day off. Now out doing a bit of shopping I don't normally have time for.

like specifically the conversation about how as long as you're alive, you can go anywhere. the potential for change is always there until death

so killing someone, esp a human, is like spitting on the memory of rem and what she died for

me shaking tristamp like Give Me The Scene

they referenced the blank ticket thing obliquely as a story she previously told so i am so. hopeful.

genuinely think vash's story would lose so much color without it so im like waiting

Yessss, even if someone is hurting him and trying to kill him, he doesn't want to take their life because that means he's taking away their chance to be better, to show the same change and redemption that Rem had a chance for.

He's fine, he can take the abuse, they can't kill him as easily as they can each other, so if they have to take their anger out on him on their way to that better way, then he's fine with that.

also if i recall vash had a scene in the manga where he says smth to knives about how it's arrogant to assume they understand every circumstance

zigzag123: Oooh, good luck on the interview! :V

i love vash so much he is one of my favorite fictonal characters of all time

goodluckmodes: Yeah, I think that was around the time the backstory for his arm was revealed. He pointed out to Knives that the humans hadn't been acting out of malice, they were acting out of desperation that Knives (and in his own mind, Vash himself) were direction responsible for.

Honestly, same. The entire story has handled grey morality in a much better, much more nuanced and true-to-life way than almost any other media I've ever seen.

im always so gently devastated at the fact that knives did what he did to protect plants but ended up kinda making things worse for them

It's an extremely hard line to walk, and most people don't get it right.

and to knives he's like well that's because i didn't kill the humans well enough

i also think a lot about how knives wanted rem to escape with them after the ships were sabotaged, at least in stamp and i think in the manga too

he loved her too!!

Yeah, Knives is so wrong in what he does, but his reasons are so valid, and he's just so, so tragic in the way he becomes the thing he's fighting against the most. His trauma broke him so hard that he was incapable of seeing that he was doing exactly what he thought he was fighting against.

Oh yeah, I think on some level he did, too, even if later on, he had trouble acknowledging it even to himself.

Also, the fact that what finally made him realize he'd fucked up was when Vash literally jacked himself into the hivemind with him and forced him to relive all the trauma he'd put him through? THAT HITS FUCKIN' HARD.

Like. GET EMPATHIED, BITCH. /lays down. Tries not to cry. Cries a lot/

Those two really were just...emotionally stunted and mentally stuck in the trauma, when it boils down to it. They aged and matured, they're fully adults, but the trauma fucked them up so hard that those literal-one-year-old babies are just still in there, unable to recover, and retraumatizing themselves because of it over and over and over again.

It's honestly why I can't really hate Knives like I normally would if he'd been written by a less skilled writer. I hate the things he's done and what he became, but I'm so sad for him and wish he could have gotten help before it was too late.

They were babies. Even if their bodies aged more quickly and their minds were more mature, they didn't have the life experiences to help them understand things the way a human child their physical age might have otherwise. And even a human child would have been severely fucked up by that, even with the grace of a few more years.

And the thing is - Knives sort of has a point. The crash - that was a child acting a bit impulsively, but after the fall if someone didn't do something the humans would keep using up the plants until they are gone.

The other thing I think about is how Rem gave her life to save the people of the ships. So, to kill one of them is like wasting her sacrifice

Yeah, his reasoning comes from a very valid point, even if the end result is just twisted and horrible.

I don't think Rem would have wanted Vash to have taken her lessons to the extreme he did, letting himself be brutalized over and over and over again, but when Knives went as far as he did, there was little chance of that not happening, and she wasn't there to help temper Vash back down from the second trauma of the Big Fall (and lbh the 80 years of only

having Knives as any social outlet during their early years, because that could not have been healthy for him) so he wasn't really able to think about it properly.

vash and knives’ backstory is why i bailed on 98 tbh bc i was just way more interested in the manga version

Yeah, like I love 98 because it was the thing that got me into anime to begin with, but it really isn't as good as the manga. It's just...too shallow of a reading for the story we got in the manga. Granted, the series wasn't finished at the time and there's never going to be a chance of getting as much out of a 26 episode series as you would out of a

full manga story, but you know.

i got all the way to fifth moon i think? then looked up the backstory bc i was too curious and went ehhhh im switching

funny story: i got into trigun and went 'i wish there was an anime for the manga continuity' literally one week before stampede was announced

Oh wow! I didn't know you were a new-ish fan!

XD Yeah, I don't think Trimax was translated and easily accessible for me at that time. I had up to Trigun 2 and then had to wait a couple years for Trimax 1 to be in my bookstore.

Actually, I think I got Trigun 2, was like "oh, huh, the anime goes past this, that's strange." and then Trimax started showing up, and I was like "WHAT??? Why is his hair different? What are those funny things on his coat??? WHAT IS GOING ON?????"

oh you didn't? haha yeah i got into trigun like. last year.

or maybe the year before?

That's the great thing about Stampede. :V Not only did it give us Two Cakes, it brought it to a new generation of fans!

yeah 2022

Did you look into it after the first Stampede trailer dropped?

i played manga vash for five minutes before stampede happened and moe vash stole my soul

HAHA I mean Moe Vash is a precious baby and he should be protected at all costs!

Don't care that he's old enough to be our ancestor. We (especially the aces) all want to be his parent and protect him!

and no i just by complete coincidence got into 98 trigun for the first time in 2022 just before the stampede announcement

haha oh, well that must have been a trip.

i joked to my friends that i manifested it bc i wanted an anime adaptation of the manga to make it easier to consume

I hadn't even thought about Trigun in any serious sort of way in years before summer 2022, when all of a sudden the trailer showed up, and I had one more round of "WHAT?????" to go through.

literally i said 'i wish there was an anime version of the manga' and ONE WEEK LATER

it was all over twitter

Well, at least Stampede is closer to the manga in tone, even if they shuffled the event timeline around a little. lol

a peak moment in the life of bat

Where.... I've been Trigun obsessed since 2003 and just... Never stopped.

haha I bet!

Waiting those six months for the new series was so rude.

I started with the anime as our local bookstore didn't carry any manga until a couple years after I watched the anime

And I basically went: holy shit... I MISSED ALL THIS CONTEXT?!

i actually tried to watch it once before but the first episode of 98 didnt really grab me

then i watched it again and i think it was ep 3 that really got me by the throat

The 98 anime isn't for everyone, but I for some reason just loved it. I think it's the coat. I just really wanted to wear it

zigzag123: Yeah, I think that's kind of how it was for us, too. It was early 2000's for me, so that would have been early for anime and manga fandom where I grew up. lol

And I don't know if I started liking Trigun first or Devil May Cry first, but the fact that four of my favorite Japanese things had That Coat as the aesthetic, I'd say it's a pretty common denominator. XD

Vash, Dante, Alucard, and Vincent Valentine. There's a theme.

(And amusingly enough, Vash is the oldest of all of them, and possibly inspired at least two of them.)

Stripper Vash @ Anime Central 2006 - #S15 Trigun Dev...

O.M.G

Ok, his coat is very good.

I use to obsess over this cosplayer. I was so sad I couldn't go to conventions to see awesome cosplays like theirs

The hair is flipped though and I'm like OMG but that's pedantic. XD

Only cosplayer I know from looking at them is...probably that Joker that was really famous a few years ago? lol Though some Trigun cosplayers have started being recognizable.

OH YEAH. AND THAT FRENCH WOLFWOOD THE FANDOM IS THIRSTY ABOUT.

Voltz & Stripper Vash @ Otakon 2005 - #02 Trigun Max...

(Part of me loves cosplay and wishes I could participate. The other part of me is sad I can't because of my size and not feeling like I fit the body types anywhere near close enough to do so, so I tend to not pay too much attention to it for my own mental health. ;_; )

And I believe this is where the name came fromStripper Vash @ Anime Central 2004 - #S23 Prop Rules

Also fun fact - I saw these before I could get my hands on the manga so I didn't know why his hair was black or what was up with the different coats

And now that plurk has stopped hiding comments - same. I would love to cosplay, but my body type makes it too hard. It would make me focus on my body too much so I don't personally do it.

But I do still enjoy seeing how creative other people can get with it

Yeah, I really wish I could enjoy seeing everyone's cosplays more, because costuming is legit one of my favorite things in the entire world. It's why I love the ren faire so much. So it just makes me really depressed to see how good everyone is and feel like I can't participate.

HAH HAH HAH But I might be feeling it more because of monthly hormones. ;_;

OH YEAH there's also that one black cosplayer who cosplays Stampede Vash and he's fucking amazing! Hold on, lemme see if I can find him!

oh no I'm seeing a bunch of ai "photos" of random dudebro Vash cosplays when I try and google him, this is awful. They look like legit photos, too, but you can tell they're ai because they all have the same expression and the cosplay itself is too off-model in a particular way even though they're all different to be legit.

OMG NO VASH WHAT HAS THE AI ROBOT DONE TO YOU??? YOUR POOR EAR

PFFT

The sure is... something

But I think I've seen the cosplayer you're talking about!

HERE HE IS!Whooaa Chris...whoa 😜 (@whoachriswhoa) on X

oh that’s just unsettling ngl, the AI one

that’s a serial killer smile

But yeah, I remember him being one of the first people to do Stampede Vash cosplay when the show came out, and he was fast! And everything was perfect and I was shook! XD He's so good!

aKFLAJSDF;HA yeaaaaah, ai nonsense is becoming such nails on a chalkboard to me, and I used to be really excited about the technology.