... more specifically, people who consider themselves Fans of various things but spend so much more time than not slamming on everything that is "wrong" with new things.

If you don't like something, fine, totally fair, but it seems like more and more often I see people taking to the internet to be upset about media than celebrating its high points.

Oh big mood

If you don't like what X is doing these days or how so-and-so interpreted or adapted a Thing You Like ... let other people enjoy it.

I have gotten pretty soured on people (generic, not vagueplurky) because they have done nothing but consistently shit on something I have told them I enjoy.

I've been running into this so much lately with the Fallout TV show that's coming and just...so much of the fan chatter is 'ugh, I bet it's going to be awful' and 'This is why it's all wrong from the 15 seconds of trailer I've seen!!!' and omg.

YES. People are doing that with the Bioshock movie that's taking forever, too. And there's nothing about it out there yet, even

I am Not About the new Wonka movie coming out, but I would rather go on for forever about the things I love and why than rant about that... it just seems so energetically backward to me.

Either give the thing a fair shot when it actually happens, or just....don't shit all over it constantly?

Maybe I'm just an old dude in his porch rocker, and this is a cultural shift? I don't know.

I even stopped playing a character because of it! I loved them, but looking at my timeline and seeing nothing but Canon Hate wasn't a good time.

I get needing to vent, I have vented my frustrations about Fallout 76....but you know, I got it out of my system and like you said, just focus on what I do like from the series in general. Fallout 76 existing doesn't hurt me any, it has 0 impact on me at all.

Ugh I'm sorry

And when people get on and go "OMG I SAW THIS AND IT WAS SO GOOD" ... it's a breath of fresh air!

The Thanksgiving horror movie was like that for me: it was A Perfect Cheesy Horror Movie. Twist, shocks, dark humor, writing, setting, all the way down I really enjoyed it.

This is also one of the reasons I just Have Not gotten off my Metalocalypse high for the last few months: even if some of the humor didn't age well, overall it's Just Good. I love seeing the animation improve and the writing get meatier.

As an artistic person I just ... love looking at things and pinpointing What Makes Them Good in my opinion so that I can go "Okay. How Make Good Thing Of My Own?"

me staring at how many people went in to cowboy bebop netflix deciding they would hate it from the get-go and thus prepared to enjoy Nothing about it

And seeing what other people like is so much more valuable as an artist than sitting around going "well people hate this and they think this is overdone etc" and thinking too much about what Not To Do

love_struck: YES THAT TOO. Just ... let it exist as its own thing! If you prefer X version? Fine! They're not the same. Different people interpret things differently!

Yeah I saw this with some people watching the Fallout trailer and taking offhanded comments that was clearly meant to be in the same spirit as the game at face value and I was like

Just. Wait for it to come out before judging it okay

YEAH!! at least give it a chance

We watched a trailer for Merry Little Batman last night and I had the same sort of thoughts

I'm. Cautiously optimistic. Especially with how well done The Last of Us series was

Merry Little Batman – Official Trailer | Prime Video

it also! might be the thing that gets someone who wasn't into the media at all interested!

someone might pick up the anime or game or whatever just because they enjoyed the LA version of it so much no matter how you felt about it as a fan so like!!!!!

whippoorwill: The showrunners are huge, lifelong Fallout fans, going back to the first game, so like....that is a big positive!

The art style turned me off at very first glance but the trailer itself looks super cute. I am not a hardcore DC person and I can just imagine people getting their poison... keyboards? out over it but

crossthesky: Yeah, judging from the trailer alone I got the vibe that it was made by people who genuinely appreciated the games

Clearly the people who made it had a stylistic vision and a tone in mind and they had a lot of FUN making it, that shows through

Even if Todd "It Just Works" Howard is involved... I'm still going to give it a chance

And that's what matters to me! Same with the Fallout stuff!

whippoorwill: All he is doing is pumping money into it! He has 0 creative control!

And I am just happy to run into someone who isn't writing it off or tearing it apart from the tiny amount we know!

Doing the radio play, a lot of us said multiple times that you can always tell when creative folks love what they do, the joy comes through in the finished product ... and that's the sort of thing I like seeing and sensing

It's true!

I would rather watch something maybe not super well written or whatever that is clearly a passion project/labour of love than something excellently written and offered with no passion and enthusiasm.

love_struck: YES. Let the new things be gateways!

crossthesky: /points at eyes points at you. You Get Me.

/laughs in Doctor Who

It's one of the reasons I am actually excited to watch OPLA ... I tried the anime once and just couldn't get into it because the sheer amount of it was intimidating ... but if I watch a shorter version and enjoy it, I'll feel better about settling in to watch/read the Ridiculously Long Original.

memorylikeasieve: YES OH GOD YES

I mean, yeah, people who claim to live the show have been slagging off on it for literal decades, but these days it's vitriolic

Oh god I feel this SO HARD

come let me tell you how much I love the Doctor Who Movie aka The One Where Paul McGann Runs Around Hollering GRAAAACE

crossthesky: Yeah, I got the impression that Todd Howard wasn't creatively involved, but the other folks involved makes it seem promising so I'm crossing my fingers that it's another TLoU-level of series

I love that movie

memorylikeasieve: YES. A lot of the Big Fandoms from when I was in college/just past it are like that now

McGann nailed that role in the space of five minutes

I know Fallout has had a tumultuous history with attempts to make a movie, but I think now is a great time for video game adaptations

It really is

But oh God these days people scream and shout over a single line of dialogue

WHICH SOME OF THEM DON'T EVEN QUOTE ACCURATELY

If the Fallout series is anywhere near on the same level as Nuka Break, I'll be happy

If yer gonna mald, at least mald over the same thing the rest of us heard

If not, then Nuka Break still exists and I'm happy it does

The Doctor Who movie is my favorite!

I love staring at that pretty TARDIS interior

See, unlike most of these complaining YouTubers, I survived the Wilderness Years and am still grateful to have any Doctor Who at all

... I have never heard the word "mald" and now I am intrigued

I feel this. one thing I enjoyed about the OPLA? the fans of the manga and anime - that I know of - gave it a shot and I've heard nothing but good from them.

I too was intimidated by the the sheer size of the original source, the show is way easier to digest and a lot of fun!

metaljean: oh good somehow it's really nice to know I'm not the only one

definitely not the only one

I am here for all of this

Malding is, as I understand it, a kind of loud and petulant seething whilst being on the wrong side of history

Aha. IDK if I'd personally use a term with "historical" context in terms of a fandom? But thank you for filling me in! I am so behind on these things since I stopped working with River.

well, 'the wrong side of history' in this case means being a -ist and a -phobe