I have questions

like since the pillar men sleeping for 2000 years is part of their natural sleep cycle . . . . how long can they be awake before that happens

it is presented as a matter of energy efficiency so do we assume they are awake a lot shorter than they hibernate

also a little curious about hamon -> photosynthesis, does that mean a hamon user can act as a greenhouse

make a killing as a florist selling tropical plants in cold regions

"Can a hamon user act as a greenhouse" probably yes, unironically

plants seem to respond pretty well to hamon

probably has been used for farming of some kind lmfao

Hermit Purple was also designed to be basically "hamon, but as a stand" so it's not a coincidence it takes the form of vines

I also heard somewhere that Hermit Purple is the "default" stand for all Hamon users but I can't find the source how irritating

oh that is pretty interesting

Do we have opinion on pillar wake cycles

we

do not kdnfhfdbdbdb

TO MY KNOWLEDGE ANYWAY

theres a lot we dont seem to touch on w the pillars (such as their people being nowhere near as OP, canonically that was the mask Kars used, it just wasnt the final result he wanted) and tbh its a shame

I am just going to have to take down info when more on the masks creation comes back up I guess is it like...

Normal Pillar = Immortal but not OP, like idk fuckin elves or something
Pillar + Human = Vampire
Pillar + Mask = "Pillar Men" who get the vampire shit on top of being already immortal hence why they only petrify in sun instead of explode

I actually did not realize the PM also got their power from the mask cause I thought it was just for turning people into vampires so they could eat them

definitely confused on what the difference between them and the rest of those guys are lol

I assumed at the very least they were all sun averse, immortal, and hyper intelligent

human + mask actually, basically after the masks didnt give him sunlight immunity, Kars fucked around w the masks using humans as test rats

and it turned out they were Tasty that way!

rtgyhujikol yea sorry that was a typo, I meant human + mask

THEY WERE ALL AT LEAST THIS YES but its implied the pillarmen are just
EVEN BEEFIER

cause lore says they GREW they had lifespans, the OG pillars

just

alarmingly long ones

human + pillar just implies cross breeding and that... who the fuck knows

I appreciated that manga Joseph's first question to Santana was just HEY DO YOU FUCK????

so best I can grok it is like

OG pillars were probably akin to human vampires, but like

pulse
not undead

(apparently pillarmen have pulses too which, wild to me)

of course they have pulses they have beating hearts for all the blood (that ACDC is turning into magma)

ive actually been doing a lotta digging in this for fic reasons so pft

I DO KNOW THAT THE BIG BEEF W KARS OVER THE MASK WAS HE NOW EATS TOO MUCH THO

so the implication is...normal pillars ate people sure but

in reasonable amounts,

fjdjfjrhrjrbfbfbf

not going to lie

am also kind of doing this for fic reasons

but yes this is another reason why I am like WHAT???? at this thing from the manga saying they sleep that long because they use so much energy. because damn, presumably Kars also eats that much person because so much energy. So like. Huh.

exactly how much on time are you getting out of all of this, sirs

YEAH and that was his peoples beef like

he wasnt...a sustainable being

wild implications are that as he and the others traveled toward rome they systematically slaughtered any of their kind they found too bc

you bet those werent only in mexico

heck hamon was developed before they Got to India, you dont make Hamon for NO REASON

Ok I need to learn more about this journey cause it wasn't really touched on much in the anime

at least to my recollection

I just got stuck on this one thing

honestly it wasnt super elaborated in the manga either- these are strung points based on the fact that we know he had to hit India before Rome, and India is where they encountered Hamon :0

cause...yeah you dont invent hamon w Kars on your doorstep

ohhh

I have done so much extrapolation u_u

IT'S APPRECIATED... I will take any and all pillar theories

they are blorbos

(worth it tho)

that said I think? the normal pillars sleep longass times too? might just be theyre awake longer than pillarmen could be
cause santana and wammu were raised, and that implies no masks until like...they Left Santana

i have so many i made a bitty OG Pillar who just woke up after slaughter rip Rasshu

still thrown Rush has never been referenced anyway

oh an OC?

speaking of Santana

fucked that not only do we not know his name, Kars decided it wasnt important enough to offer correction

An OC!!!

nice!

but yeah RIP Santana. he is actually one of my faves out of them

Small Brain: WE ARE ABOVE HUMANS....THEY ARE PATHETIC THINGS
Galaxy Brain: [rasshu is crylaughing because the humans over thought something again why are they so dumb and cute]

i lov santana so much

hes just
there
hes in a basement....

let him out

(gives him a stand)
(also gives him some belated teen rebellion. as a treat.)

what if I told u that is my fic -

ok it's not really like that LOL

but

these are good and he deserves

Santana is just doing his best, man

highfives
we should compare santanas one day for funsies...

honestly I still need to figure him out. but that is what I'm doing this for

oh related

i broke down the age time frames of pillars using cats

cause og pillars can get old! presumably Kars looked old once. but I was struggling and struggling and then remembered

cats are gr8 at being old

and sure enough I was actually able to line it up exactly

oh?!

I GOTTA WAIT UNTIL BREAK TO SEND THE WORK its in discord and...work internet has been REAL bad lately, astounded plurk is loading tbh
BUT YEAH

santana is the pillar equivalent of like 17-18 (forgot where the number landed) hes Babey

ruffles Santana's hair

a young lad

wheres that protecty meme...us w Santana

yes that one-

we point at araki,

I'm a pillar men apologist

and I'm not ashamed of that because so is Joseph

YEAH!! its the Parents who were wrong here (the parents are Kars and Esidisi. ilu both but u are so problematique)

actually fun AU fact for you but for fic purposes I dug around and

me: ...his dub name just means SAINT WIND
me looking at wammu and raising my brows:

so what Im sayin is au santana tossin it all aside and going 'and ill honor the one cool dude in my life tbh'

I mean

even regular Santana is kind of just that?

or well

at least

Santa Ana winds - WikipediaThis is what it always brought to mind for me

But maybe that's just my perspective as a Former Californian

Santana is from that yes, but Santa Ana is

well

Santa Ana

thats an actual saint where that name for the winds came, and from there the name got slapped on

regardless it feels like a nice nod and use of dub naming :|a

(tbh au santana didnt even bother w a name for a good while its just someone finally asked, which led to 'uh' and so on so on)

shit like this makes me wish there was a jojo DR

u_u

kira posting the "a man of taste I see"

oh no caesar honey, you are a little too proud of your nazi connections

they downplayed his smugness in the anime lol

well. they downplayed most of the THESE ARE THE NAZIS in the anime

"A hint - not on your finger" is anime only?!

YEAAAAAH.....ITS LIKE....ARAKI WASNT...WRONG IN THE LIKLIHOOD OF CAESAR not realizing the depths of nazi crimes BUT

hits different!!!

mmmmmhm

But the tradeoff is Joseph being more loudly anti nazi

so at least there is that

his shonen bond with Stroheim had me seriously going at him some times in the anime

YEAH....it was very 'this is not an equal trade Araki'

er, Davpro rather
but I think theyd have consulted Araki so

"maybe it's just because of the hamon but I haven't gotten hungry and I don't feel like I need to pee" MORE QUESTIONS

FJGJGJGNFFNFNF

Araki: ill explain why hell climb is ok
Us:

The mustard serves no purpose.

meshina is insinuating

Jojo: The nazis have the stone!!
LL: Oh well. It's better than Kars

this is where my apologia started in the anime tbh

Me: NO IT'S NOT.

Roomie: You want Kars to have it??
Me: yeah.... he's just vibin....

I like how many nazis the pillar men killed

wheeze yeah like
listen
both are bad
bUT KARS IS NOT WORSE THAN THE NAZIS IN THIS CASE

at least he settled for just genocide good lord
the attrocities of wwii are just. Gyeh !