EEGA 覺得
1 years ago
不是摩爾定律已死, 是你家不長進漲價有理?黃仁勳:摩爾定律已死,12 吋晶圓貴超多
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EEGA
1 years ago
14/16nm 之後的電晶體微縮有一半是靠設計上的改良, 你家的設計都不改, 當然吃不到新製程的好處
痴漢水球.old
1 years ago
其實進入90nm以下就是這樣了吧?
EEGA
1 years ago
不是, 這是 FinFET 時代的特產. 14/16 世代一個 inverter 的 MOS 都還是 4 fin, 接下來的製程 fin 越來越少, 帳面上的電晶體密度也比實際製成微縮的比例好很多. 但是 NV 一直死守在 3 fin, 那當然就只能嘴人家 wafer 貴... (5nm 標準是只有 2 fin 而已)
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GTH
1 years ago
沒對手啊 AMD跟INTEL顯卡都那種死樣 加上虛擬貨幣那一波爽賺 現在沒有礦老闆來批發顯卡就滿地打滾說你們都要買我的漲價顯卡
Chi Yen
1 years ago
Lao Huang’s answer was somewhat surprising, from Samsung 8N to TSMC 4N, the microscopic level of improvement is about 15%, but very, unfortunately, the cost increase is more than 15%.
EEGA
1 years ago
Chiyenms: 我很訝異價錢只多15%...不過微縮比絕對有超過 15%. N7到N5就可以做到 1.6x 的密度了,只作出1.15x 絕對是設計問題
Chi Yen
1 years ago
那文章裏很多數字的解釋應該有問題。
Chi Yen
1 years ago
The response from Huang was that gains were surprisingly modest. “Processed generationally from 8N to 4N, that process gain was probably about 15%. But unfortunately, the cost goes up by more than 15%,” he explained.
Chi Yen
1 years ago
Huang commented that the differences between Samsung N8 and TSMC 4N they were from one +15% scalability approximately, what we understand as higher density versus higher frequencies, but at the same time and to everyone’s misfortune, the cost increase is greater than 15%.
EEGA
1 years ago
原來是價錢貴“超過”15%,這樣就可以理解了
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