firebenderjess tanks4thememory This would be the thingit.

So basically there are a lot of questions about the actual physical makeup of Xion's replica body, and since things are so freaking weird now, figured we should all do our best to be on the same page.

I'll do what I can! :3

(Though if asked ICly, Lea's response will be along the lines of 'I dunno; ask Vexen'.)

I tend to think that her body is mostly like a human's unless otherwise indicated, given that that was Vexen's goal in creating Replicas in the first place. But because she's a prototype there are a few bugs to iron out.

And a few things we all had wildly different thoughts on from the start that have made RP... odd.... lol

Like, say, random comas.

But that's why I thought this should be a more than two person discussion. Because I, for one, still maintain that she does in fact survive on just ice cream and sleep. LOL

Blame that on her specifically being designed to pass for a Nobody XD

Metabolism is more magic heavy than strictly biological.

Yeah. Hence why she can survive on noting but ice cream.

The bit what started this:

Though if Lea and Vexen can ever convince her to eat proper meals, she will likely notice some improvement in how well she functions, because surviving isn't the same as thriving.

Oh probably.

But unless the train makes healthy eating a mission, that one will remain an uphill battle, lol

.........Brb putting in request-

Along with personal hygiene.

ROFLOL

Buuuuuuut I think Replica 'programming' basically works on the concept of 'brains are basically organic computers', facilitated by involvement of magitek.

Well, Lea's gonna at least try and get her to try malasadas on the Pokemon world trip. With the excuse that a Big Malasada is too big for him to eat on his own.

lol. Sneaky, Lea. Sneaky.

Baby steps. X3

Then he'll just have to figure out how to make them on the train. Which he probably would anyway, since they're tasty.

soo, not digital? Or is she more magic? I watched all the kingdom hearts cutscenes and it called a replica, data. Like heart data.

In KH magic, science, and data aren't necessarily separate.

tbf Tron is disney science too

Tron gets a disc that's been boosted by both Cid's coding skills and Merlin's magic in KH 2.

And KH re;Coded is a whole game centering around the concept of a datascape.

perhaps xion could read as semi-code if touched?

or some sort of 'it seem slightly familiar it a little off'

i've pretty much made it that FF and KH magic can work on Tron stuff/character in my 'canon' since it's done so in games/media

More likely the latter. Her body is very much physical (well as much as any of them are on the train) but there would probably be a bit of overlap that wouldn't be there with a normal human.

there are lots of different code as written irl, so perhaps like 2 mostly incompatible languages detecting something but its not translatable?

I'd say it'd be sorta like an android, where the body isn't data, but the mind and heart are...but yeah, in a really weird and unfamiliar programming language.

With a side of some very weird energy readings, because of all the magitek involved.

if thats the case then i don't think anything would be picked up, except mabe some energy sensation then

Im kinda wondering what code even is now, in the sense of being taken outside of a computer harddrive now.

That is a legit question.

wonder if its pure concept being held together in a container of [insert science beyond comprehension]

aka magic.

That would be my guess yes.

Basically, in Wake I used 'Nautilus allowed it to happen' as an excuse. So in this case we can just say 'The way the Void/tethering works allows it to happen'.

Times I'm vaguely tempted to app my ReBoot character...but she's difficult to make work long-term.

omg Reboot is awesome.

Hex is just difficult period. XD

i love hex. But she is chaotic

Heeeeeeeeex

man, she'd be more advanced than Faux XC since she's from the 90s

I am fine with, if nothing else, whatever readings he gets making it clear that Xion isn't 100% the same as Axel at the least. I was gonna say Axel and Vexen but...um... Vex has his own ways he might read as different.

Yeah Vexen is still technically a Nobody.

Albeit one who's deliberately cultivating a new heart.

/nods

But yeah. to catch everyone up, um... Xion's sort of picked up a stalker and is doing a stupid thing in the last mission

Lea, meanwhile is human. He has an extra half-heart from his time as Axel, but that wouldn't be something Faux could pick up. Lea's actually getting Vexen to teach him the trick of how to detect things like that, but it's a purely magical sense.

If Lea figures out Faux is stalking Xion, he might pull him aside for a Serious Talk, but once he figures out what's up, he'll explain as best he can.

Im saving up for a digitising laser, so when that happens, everyone using it will be code

Yeah, Hex revels in being difficult XD She enjoys stirring the pot just to see what happens.

And yes, Vexen is All Kinds of Weird, because what even is a Nobody with a heart, aside from an oxymoron?

Lea's kind of wondering if he'll pop back to being Even- or at least human- once his heart is fully developed.

yeah i don't understand canonically why lea and axel arent sepaarte beings

they now have separate hearts therefore they are different (enough by KH canon)

but i dunno. KH lore is hard to follow (at least for me .__.)

It's hard to follow for us too sometimes. XD

But basically, it comes down to that Axel is part of Lea, not a separate being, because Lea's accepted that part of himself.

That's why he still has his chakrams and fire powers and can still use dark corridors. He's accepted the darkness in himself, for the most part, and thus accepted Axel.

Sora being able to spin off all these extra people I think is just part of Sora being Sora

and should not be taken as the norm/expected result for anyone else

lol

Yeah Sora is a special case. XD

so do lea just have a chunky heart now?

(trying to visualise additional extra heart)

I mean Sora's had multiple full hearts in himself at once. Not sure any difference registered.

But again... Sora

Vexen knows how to detect heart related weirdness and is teaching Lea. But most people whouldn't notice, even itf it was part of them.

this is kinda making me feel he has a bunch of 1 ups XD

I'm not even sure if faux has anything detectable.

SSo yeah, Lea may well have a chunky (metaphorical) heart now. His physical heart is normal. X3

Faux would almost certainly have a detectable heart. Because one thing re; Coded did was to prove that a heart can absolutely be born from data.

oh ok. I wasn't sure since the orginal tron level didn't go into that (although havn't played since it came out)

yep

i would have thought that programs would have pieces since users who write them aren't guaranteed to give anything of themselves to the program

but i guess living almost 30 years would probably buff the size of one)

They might start with a piece. But hearts also develop and change over time.

Xion started with just a bare-bones framework of a heart, and now has one that's pretty much fully developped (though she doesn't know that yet).

She's come to accept she has a heart. It's all the things tht come with it that she's less clear on >.>

Faux will just thing thats all the fun stuff that users are allowed and he doesn't have

(reinforced by naoya telling him that all his programs are non-living scripts)

Get him to explain what he means by users some time for her weird take on things. Well, once he explains computers and programs as well. Just to finally get to "You don't use the SCA?" which leads to "then aren't you a user too...?"

Lea will absolutely face-palm if he finds out that Faux has been told that.

Will people stop giving other people personhood issues?! Geez!

ROFLOL

Lea's take: if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.

All evidence points to Faux being a full person, so he is indeed a full person.

faux will definitely have a full reaction to that

Both of mine are also of that opinion. (My other character is ALSO from a canon that has artificial people and self-aware AI.)

That explanation is plain quackers.

Yep. Lea's not gonna stand around while someone else's personhood is questioned, ever.

All of mine would see him as a person too... but then.... um... until CRAU things happened... none of them ahd ever heard of a computer, so...

unfortunately being a program is only half the issue, his dark and mysterious backstory, kinda makes the other part a bit difficult.

"Welcome to the club; we've got jackets."

indeed you do XD

as long as his brother doesn't show up, I think he's be OKish

If Clu2 does turn up he will get a very rude awakening.

otherwise i'd have to immediately apologise to the player for him trying to take his head off first thing.

And also probably a punch in the nose. If not immediately, then before too long.

The KH crew tried to kill Xheanort immediately too. So it's definitely a Thing.

Yeah, sometimes reflexive attempted murder happens.

oh, ive also got a strategey if CLU2 does come in without pure murder attempts past the first. He's gonna steal his energy. pettyness to the max.

Whether you're talking like being a vampire or literally just swiping his dinner I'd be down with either. X3

nah, just swiping his dinner X3

unless Faux does become an energy vampire before then

(i wonder if he can learn magic?)

Hey, one of the games Tanks and I were in recently, I warned people OOC that if any of the following characters show up (and there was a list) Agatha might attempt murder first, think after. And Clef totally DID try to destroy Zagato. Not kill, because he knew death wasn't permanent, but tried to DESTROY him.

So... yeah. instant attack mode happens. Just discuss it OOC with the player, lol

There's a few Margulis would be like that with, too. Btu they're...let's just say Margulis could not win on his own.

fair enough.

In Agatha's case Bangladesh Dupree and her mom were at the top of the list. So... um.... >.>

No point trying to kill OTHAR TRYGGVASSEN, Gentleman Adventurer?

Oh no, he's on the list too. She's just warned people that ith him it won't work. "Still will probably shoot him in the face. If only to see how in the world he manages to survive it."

Clearly his sparky reality bending is focused heavily on improbable escapes.

amusing how this ended up 'and i would attempt a murder if that one dude specifically walks by'

XD I'm sure most canons have at least one.

ROFL. Probably.

Not sure Spark has anyone like that though. Except maybe Papillon or Endos. but those are both from CRAU.