RushLifeguard asks
15 years ago
What's everyones' opinions on President Obama?
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-jamesblazer- says
15 years ago
I think he is getting a bad rep because he was elected during an economic crisis.
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
I think some people like him solely because he's black and some people dislike him because he's black. And others form their own opinions.
-jamesblazer- says
15 years ago
people 50 years ago would have bet their life that there wouldnt be a black president and look now
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ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
i dont give him much credit right now cause hes doing a bad job but if by some miracle he can fix the economy or something then great
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
but as of now i dont want to become a socialist society and i would appreciate it if he would stop trying to make it that way
princessn94 says
15 years ago
i think bush lead us to a bad economy and people want Obama to be a miracle worker. It takess more than a few months to fix everything.
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
I know (not think) that President Bush was not the reason our economy failed and I also know that obama isn't a miracle worker despite
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
everyone's thoughts and hopes
g_grass says
15 years ago
im not going to , but im sure that someone could make a pretty good argument that he contributed
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
it was actually a lot of the congress that was dominated by the democrats...that wouldn't do half of what he wanted anyways
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
research it if you want to know
g_grass says
15 years ago
i know that some of it has to do with congress, im just saying that bush isnt comepletely innocent
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
no...no one said he was either
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
you probably aren't completely innocent either when you think about it...I just hate it when people automatically say Bush because
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
he really wasn't the beginning of the problem
car005 says
15 years ago
i agree...bush isnt to blame completely to blame, becuaes he was put in a terrible position with 9/11 and starting the war and everything
car005 says
15 years ago
completely to blame*
car005 says
15 years ago
and i do believe that everything he did was because he had our best interest in mind, plus he's only human
car005 says
15 years ago
and i think the same goes for pres. obama because he's been put into a terrible situation what with the economy in ruins
car005 says
15 years ago
and people expecting him to do something about it right away
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
every president is put into a bad situation and they never handle it the way people want them to
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
it shows that everyone is human and we just notice the faults of the presidents more because they are constantly in the spotlight
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
they still do a bad job!
car005 says
15 years ago
and despite weather he's the best for the job or not, it's still going to take a while to get the US back on track
a_swanson says
15 years ago
polotics istoo confusing
a_swanson says
15 years ago
is too*
getzziii says
15 years ago
I agree with Carolyn! everyone needs to remember that Obama has only been in office for four months.
MeagPJello says
15 years ago
did u hear he got a dog
MeagPJello says
15 years ago
it looks sooooo cute
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
yea...it doesn't really matter how long he's been here or not...hes already spent way more then anyone
getzziii says
15 years ago
soo... he is doing a good thing and trying to fix the economy... not to mention that his stimulus plan where he is spending "all
g_grass says
15 years ago
my opinion remains the same
getzziii says
15 years ago
the money" is a continuation of Bush's TARP
g_grass says
15 years ago
and yes the dog thing does not belong in this plurk
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
yea and i didnt ever agree with throwing money at the economu
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
economy*
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
i dont think that it really helps
getzziii says
15 years ago
in the short term its bad for the middle and lower class, but in the future it puts money back into circulation within thhe country..
getzziii says
15 years ago
how is he changing the style of gov't?
getzziii says
15 years ago
first of all socialism has to do with changing the economay NOT the gov't...
getzziii says
15 years ago
secondly if he thinks it works, he might as well do it... I mean we need a slution badly
getzziii says
15 years ago
*solution
getzziii says
15 years ago
SOOOO its an economic system
getzziii says
15 years ago
ummm no that would be COMMUNISM... if you have the communism idea of 'share everything' but apply it economics, then that is socialism.
getzziii says
15 years ago
they're not the same
getzziii says
15 years ago
uh yeah i did and I manitain thst SOCIALISM is economic and communism is political... the right wings throws the word socialism
getzziii says
15 years ago
around all the time to scare people and make them think obama's trying to make us communist
getzziii says
15 years ago
people don't understand the difference
getzziii says
15 years ago
I don
getzziii says
15 years ago
't
getzziii says
15 years ago
But I do think that Obama is asmart guy... and he wouldn't do something as stupid as try to make america communist
getzziii says
15 years ago
socilism isn't that big of a deal anyway... besides bringing us "closer to communism" what else is bad about it?
getzziii says
15 years ago
but what is wrong with integrating a little bit of socialism into our gov't? it's not like he's trying to be Stalin... he's basiaclal
getzziii says
15 years ago
ly saying that the worlds wealth is concentrated too much in the upper class and that the pooe need some of the money that the rich have but
getzziii says
15 years ago
don't need.
getzziii says
15 years ago
well IF he is taxing thw middle class more than the rich... that's not socialism at ALL, that straight up capitalism
getzziii says
15 years ago
secondly, from what I've heard he's giving the middle class tax breaks ... I just read a speech that he made today...
getzziii says
15 years ago
true, from taxes, but also from inside the government... we can't complain about both being in debt AND having high taxes because t
getzziii says
15 years ago
he money has to come from somewhere
getzziii says
15 years ago
(by the in debt I mean the government being in debt)
getzziii says
15 years ago
hahah ok sorry if I got a little cutthroat :-) debating is intense.
getzziii says
15 years ago
ok?
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
next thing is that the money coming from "inside" the government is also tax money...
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
there is no inner government money haha
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
but also debt is bad because the more debt our country has the more we are in debt to other counties because we barrow from them
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
and the more we take and don't fix the more other countries have control of us which is not good and that is why it is important to pay off
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
debt because we will never be able to get money from anyone if we aren't good and payback aka reliable
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
and our country is democratic with a free market economy...that is captitalism
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
becoming socialist is not what will fix the economy...letting businesses take care of business is what will fix the economy eventually
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
it will spring back but by throwing money at the economy/the stimulus plan and all that won't help...that is the tax payers money in the end
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
and another problem in his plans to help "create" jobs is that all these jobs he's making to build roads and bridges and all that is first
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
of all not important things...and second of all eventually (probably when he isn't president anymore unemployment will go up again because
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
when all these jobs are finished there will be a bunch of people that were "saved" by him that won't have jobs
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
and they most likely will be out of a job when a diff president is in office...so it is kind of like he is putting of the problem to another
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
president
SlickRick says
15 years ago
i love obama
SlickRick says
15 years ago
he is the best
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
if you seriously love obama and think he is the best you really must not watch the news too much
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
if you realize what he is doing and what he has done, i dont think you would love him like you do. or at least you shouldnt
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
amen mary
Richardson says
15 years ago
personally, thought he was all talk.... all this change, as he stated....... you can figure the rest out -.-
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
all talk? you mean all reading off a teleprompter
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Socialism isn't the same as applying communism to the economy btw
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Socialism is where the government takes complete control over the economy and dictates which compnies receive what resources
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Pretty much the CEOs of every company are now government employees.
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
With socialism the government doesn't have to be fair and share everything equally
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Often in socialism the government exploits the workers and take all revenue into its treasury for use
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
That's one of the ways that The Germans were able to successfully fuel such a long offensive in WWII since they were able to seize all
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
profits from Germany's companies
g_grass says
15 years ago
capitalism is economic not a form of government like communism btw
getzziii says
15 years ago
it may be true that socialism is interconnected with communism.... but do any of you honestly think that obama is going to try to convert o
getzziii says
15 years ago
ur system of democrcay into communism? I don't think he's THAT radical.
ShaCarlay says
15 years ago
its looking that way
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
i dont think he is trying to do that but i do think that he is somewhat doing that without really knowing what he is doing
getzziii says
15 years ago
Interestingly enough, many of the systems that we already have in place are socialist. For example, the school tax system.
getzziii says
15 years ago
Everyone pays money for a school tax regardless of whether they have childern that go to school or not. that is socialism.
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
um not really so much entirely...
getzziii says
15 years ago
yeah... basiacally any tax system that has to do with the public- school taxes like I said before, highways, etc... They all
getzziii says
15 years ago
use theconcept that everyone helps to benefit the country as a whole... is that's not socialism, I don't know what is
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
it isn't socialist (yet) you're right luke and other person that is talking (i have no idea who you are)...that isn't really socialism
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
i guess you could say it kinda seems like it because everyone has to contribute but it isn't really socialism
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Yeah I wouldn't say that taxes are socialist because they contribute to the health of the country as a whole but taxes are just like
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
maintainence fees really to keep government run public services open
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Public services that everyone agrees are vital to the well-being of a first world country.
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
I would say socialism would have to be taken farther into a system of government control of the economy
NRABilly says
15 years ago
I think you have that a little backwards Rush communism is where the government takes complete control of the economy.
NRABilly says
15 years ago
socialism is a mixed economy. while communism is a Command economy.
Laurshiika says
15 years ago
were def not socialist or communist yes there has been ? as to will obama lead us to this but yea
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
well socialism isn't complete control. They still let the companies decide what they want to do but they basiclly decide which companies
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
survive or die.
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Sweden and Finland are socialist democracies
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Did you know that if you sold your company there that they will take every last penny of what you sold it for
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
Sweden also has a lot of alcoholics and one of the highest suicide rates
RushLifeguard says
15 years ago
coincidence? Idk
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