ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
meme | https://images.plurk.com/7vzUakD63S1uiugkyscuQV.png
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ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
I don't play any characters with canon voices rn and I also don't really think about it, so this meme is difficult.
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
I am 100% sure I could make something up for the meme but would I remember it three weeks later when I need to describe a characters voice? No.
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago @Edit 4 years ago
Natasha has a couple videogame/cartoon voice actors and the like but a lot of them have ridiculous Russian accents, which I guess make sense if you need to signal that a character is Russian where screentime is limited, but don't make sense for a character that is supposed to be the ultimate undercover agent.
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ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
A lot of comics writers have also clearly written her with an accent— Fraction is one, early Bendis did too, though he emphasized it less as he wrote her more.
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
Some would say "as Bendis started writing all characters with the same dialogue" but I'm more charitable than that.
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
But there are also a few writers who specifically note her lack of accent, going back to Gene Colan, I think, in Amazing Adventures. And that's how I do it: she worked very hard to learn to speak with a general American accent.
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
Bucky also has a pretty general American accent, but because he was an army brat who moved around and didn't pick up many regionalisms.
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
I think jeff parker has her speaking with a fake cossack accent at one point, which is amazing
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
In X-Men: First Class?
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
yeah
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
That's the only time I can remember Parker writing her off the top of my head.
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
yeah she asks fury if he missed her cossack accent and he says it's almost as good as his I think
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
I like the idea of her doing a melodramatic russian persona early in her superhero career
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
I've read the issue, it's cute, doesn't make a lot of sense with her continuity, but it's cute.
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
Black Widow's earliest "madame Natasha" persona c. Tales of Suspense didn't conceal her nationality at all, so it would make sense for have an accent there… but the Silver Age is a strange place.
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
I think of first class as a way of updating the silver age for the sliding timescale
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
like that era of x-men was.............weird
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
Natasha didn't join SHIELD until well past her early encounters with the Avengers, and she met Wanda then. So the whole premise doesn't work as like… an in continuity thing, but fine as a cute Silver Age vibe story.
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
I'm being a killjoy!! But generally when writers are like… giving her an accent you can distinguish on the page, they are also oversexualizing her in some way, playing on the fantasy of Eastern European women. It's very… exoticizing, I guess, and while I don't think it's always that way it has to be neccessarily it usually is, because comics.
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
anyway here's a cute panel of wanda and nat in the silver age:
https://images.plurk.com/4DYimMw2ZKp8JFjsOOCXrP.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
also a lady checking out herc's booty
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
phonetic accents should be banned from comics!!! but in that one they just mention her accent
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
it's not written out,
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
yeah, I've read it! I think I own the print issue. I don't think Parker specifically was being skeezy, that comic is very pure, just explaining reasons why I make the characterization choices I do
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
understandable!!!
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago @Edit 4 years ago
here's a better example of this, from daredevil v2 #36:
https://images.plurk.com/2bCVLkZW8NJG6Y1eOAgyYA.png https://images.plurk.com/6z034WDxVzmGyN07Dupg7p.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
and this is a good comic, and one of my favorite runs, but like— "how do you say? shennanigans" has some definite sexual subtext
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
and most of her dialogue… is not like that.
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
Bendis has her pretend to be French later on in this run but that… is also played as sexy, so?
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
anyway here's the exact opposite but also still sexy:
https://images.plurk.com/5TedT04CuzGaFecpfAlQ2e.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
which brings it back around to my other character!!
direwolfenoot
4 years ago
extremely rude to get water on her towel like that
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
Bucky was born in Indiana and comics Camp Lehigh is in northern Virginia, and it's hard because I enjoy historical slang and anachronistic teen language but his voice becomes much more boring as he grows up
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/19PsDoIusZJH2e5uPjskbe.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
he sounds?? like America??
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
4 years ago
sometimes I put that in my descriptions and just so you all know, it is canon
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