Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:34:11.000Z
hot take: if you seriously think FGO is against self insert pandering and is intentionally making Guda weak/a bad master to minimize their importance, you're more delusional than those self inserters you so haughtily think you're better than.
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Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:35:25.000Z
you're not better because you're here for "the story" when you can't even figure out Guda's not just a blank self insert
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:35:53.000Z
your pandering ships between boring servants aren't better or more sophisticated
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:40:45.000Z
and FGO doesn't disdain its primary customer base that pays it the most
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feanor
2019-01-28T14:43:11.000Z
what
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:44:23.000Z
there's a really popular thing that goes around, at least in the Reddit and rp community I'm around, where people who self insert/waifu are pathetic and deluded
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:45:05.000Z
and seeing any romance with the servants is either shallow pandering in the form of noncanon myroom lines or delusional nonsense
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:46:14.000Z
tl;Dr sigurdxbryn, kadocxana and yu x xiayu/lanling are the only real romances
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:47:07.000Z
it's gotten a lot of steam in part two, where they declare that Guda "isn't wanked anymore" and is weak and a bad master
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T14:48:04.000Z
and retroactively it means only the crazies like kiyo like you, and people like dantes actually want haydee and trying to see otherwise is deluded and wrong
feanor
2019-01-28T15:33:26.000Z
well that's not completely- untrue
feanor
2019-01-28T15:33:28.000Z
like
feanor
2019-01-28T15:33:32.000Z
in cosmos story
feanor
2019-01-28T15:33:37.000Z
there's no pandering at all.
feanor
2019-01-28T15:33:51.000Z
would add ophelia's small harem
feanor
2019-01-28T15:34:01.000Z
to self inserts, I guess.
feanor
2019-01-28T15:34:23.000Z
but if you like it, and like the whole my room aspect, that's fine, it's just not part of the main story anymore.
feanor
2019-01-28T15:34:59.000Z
this doesn't mean part 1 didn't have it, but part 2 certainly toned that down.
feanor
2019-01-28T15:35:46.000Z
this doesn't remove you can have qin propose in my room, just it's not going to be part of the edgy main ruin billions storyline.
feanor
2019-01-28T15:35:56.000Z
and how the crypters are becoming the main source of romance.
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T22:37:27.000Z
perhaps, but the reason for it is different
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T22:38:28.000Z
it's not treating the first part like porn in fate where it doesn't need that pandering anymore
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T22:39:11.000Z
it's more that the story is dark and full of despair so it needs this
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-28T22:39:27.000Z
to make Guda feel inferior and helpless
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-29T03:15:55.000Z
the romance and the cool moments in part one allowed for a lighter tone and more fun despite the dark overall plot
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-29T03:16:23.000Z
now in p 2 the one who brought levity to Chaldea is gone
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-29T03:16:50.000Z
everything is darker and grim even though the situation is less dire
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-29T03:17:20.000Z
so draining the cool moments and romance away helps convey that
Noodle Emperor
2019-01-29T03:18:01.000Z
it's not a statement against Guda though, as events are still full of the fanservice, just sent in the past
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