Just this one thing: It doesn't even truly matter whether or not they paid you an entire load (the irony) of 25k L$ for your work. What matters is that they perceive this extremely low payment, which is more like a tip (no joke, I have paid that much for someone as a tip after they helped us out with some custom item) as equal to the value of your work.

And perceived it as something they can 'afford'. I'd be ashamed to even post that. 25000 Lindens?! And with that, supposedly you had to consider your work paid for and a deal had been made? What...?

Hey. Since you want to keep doing this publicly rather than privately, I'll talk to you here. I want to address something specifically. When someone feels uncomfortable about things you say to them and you try to call them a liar or downplay their discomfort made by the things you say, it's not okay.

If you didn't agree that you made me feel uncomfortable, you certainly didn't give me that impression when you apologized for it.

I admitted to you I didn't know how to handle it because I was confused, so I shut down.

I tried to be the bigger person and let you know I let it go so that we could move past things.

As you know, I'm always happy to resolve things if you want to do this privately like we've asked, before.

professionalskye Please do not start with me.

You are so happy this is happening and you're disgusting.

that was for professionalskye , sorry.

Never have I wanted you to be afraid of me, I don't know what relevance that has here.

I feel like maybe you're afraid of letting things go, resolving things, etc. though

Afraid to let go of drama because it's so fun for you

Pizza, what part did asking me for stuff and stealing money on my behalf for the last two years played into your "confusion"? How "inappropriate" was I that you've non-stop NOT LEAVE ME ALONE. Even now you're putting out statements claiming to own my property.

If you have something you want to get off your chest, feel free to message me privately as I've already let you know you can/ asked you to / people you've come to about me have told you to do.

I would LOVE to leave you alone and have been trying since July! I ignore your event invites, I've ignored you outside of doing maintenance for Arcade and now having to argue with you about who owns my code. I'm responding to YOU not vice-versa.

If you want to continue to make a spectacle of private matters I've tried to resolve with you, I'm not here for it.

Try fixing the problem with the source (me, personally) rather than rallying strangers who have no part in it.

Pizza, you don't get to make that remark about me then say "let's talk private". You KNOW you don't want to get into an "inappropriate comment" argument with me because you KNOW the logs I have from you and Emery.

Ashur, I didn't even see you replying, yet. This was all towards, skye.

I can't even read what you guys are saying, I'm not going to succumb myself to being attacked by two people who want the worst for me because of their own personal issues.

I've let you both know you can talk to me to resolve things. You've both declared to not want the drama, even though we're here, now.

you act really high and mighty for all the screen shots I've seen of the nonsense you say when you think no one will find out

I have to tend to RL things because it's the holiday week. I've never blocked either of you, you know where I am.

Verinne this has nothing to do with you.

I'm glad everyone's sharing things, though.

Good for you guys.

aren't you?

There's a world outside of SL, I implore you to explore it.

Pizza, where are you? Same universe where you put out that statement on me tonight, right? Ok well I defended myself. You didn't try to come to me personally. You removed me on Plurk when I told you I wouldn't sell you my code (that you claim now to have bought two years ago for pennies).

Anyways, I didn't mean for this to be a platform for you guys to air all your grievances you never brought to me to fix or resolve but rather wanted to harbor.

I work a job, full time, that isn't profiting off others work

octagonsyazimoto: if you wanted this private, you wouldn't have put out a very public statement like you did. twice. first.

nice try though!

Feel free to resolve this privately like adults, like I've said more times than I can count.

I've never made anything public without coming to you all first. When you posted that notecard a week ago telling designers I sabotaged access to their data, what did I do? I messaged Katharine; the last Arcade owner that had me on their friend list and asked you to stop.

What did I get in response? A threatening IM from Emery proclaiming ownership of my code and how that's that and none of you would ever speak to me again. Then days later ANOTHER notecard even though I was STILL silent. I'm not going to be silent anymore. Stop expecting it when you attack me.

you didn't do this like an adult. your initial notecards were unprofessional and resulted in this whole thing.

but, like you said, I'm just a third party witness. So I'll step back. GL

I don't want to do the mudslinging, but I will dirty my hands enough to clean myself. Done.

One more thing, Ashur. You keep feeling attacked. All we ever did was ask people to go to you for database info since we were never instructed how to get it and didn't want to ask for help on it since you were upset with us already. We never smeared you. You were the one who made the claims you didn't get compensated for the project in your statement that

came afterwards.

We offered you more money when you said you were upset and you declined it. I don't know what more you want, but when you figure it out- you know where to message me.

Also...I typed all that very random sorry to everyone else here it was all addressed to octagonsyazimoto

TakagiGraves: I wasn't paid. They say they sent me 25K L$. I don't remember it and quite frankly I don't believe it. Whether they did or not though, where did they say I ASKED them for 25K L$? Or a second gacha machine? For all I know they also gave me a premium spot at Prism events as apart of any thanks, but that's not payment for ownership of my code.

TakagiGraves: The bigger context is that for a year already I'd already been scripting for Pizza and this wasn't a new, first of a kind arrangement. She understood my code ownership from past events like Luxe, why the confusion over Arcade?

TakagiGraves: If they knew all along that they owned my code, why hide and protect with NDA that they'd given it to Mike anyway? Why lie to me for WEEKS after I asked them why'd they given my code to Mike? Why hide and why lie if they truly believe they bought my code some point in the past?

TakagiGraves: I don't want to name drop all the other events I script for or etc. etc. But no one has this confusion. There's never been this problem before. Who in SL believes you can own a huge part of someone elses livelihood when part of the payment was a second machine?

TakagiGraves: What did I permanently buy from them with my near 1 million L$ in splits and sponsor fees over the year? Nothing! They own nothing of mine. We were friends and in business while we were friends and in business, nothing more.

skye, i don’t use that account anymore for sl. i’m octagons yazimoto in sl

you can reach me there

I'd like to clarify, since my name was brought up here again. Skye, you messaged me first. You came at me, in world, and accused me of shading Epiphany because I made a comment in a plurk about arcade being my favorite #1 gacha event. You then ejected me from epiphany. When I asked why I wasn't invited, you gave me some nonsense about how I'm unreliable.

I never once said anyone was upset with you. You said I shaded your event, I replied saying you shaded all of pizza's friends who weren't invited.

I wish there were no events anymore and the drama would stop and the designers could finally be designers again and not just minins by people who organize events.

Skye, you were unblocked when my friends you were harassing kept telling you to leave them alone and come to me to resolve it. i’ve never blocked you on sl or plurk. you have access to me. I’m not going to engage in this publicly anymore since it’s between you and me and not us and the world. again, you know where to find me

same goes for you, ashur.

i’m done here.

When I asked for clarification on why I wasn't invited, you said I was unreliable. I asked for proof and you couldn't give me anything solid. You then admitted to the issue being, once again, from some misunderstanding on plurk. You didn't invite me because I was friends with pizza.

You went to several of pizza's friends that night and said a myriad of things, including how pizza's friends are a psychopath army.

We pulled Tyr into a call, as a friend, over a plurk she made towards another friend. If Tyr wants to elaborate more on that herself, she's free to do so.

I left our conversation feeling like things had been resolved, only to find out you continued to drop my name to several people. I had to message you on second life and ask that you stop using my RL name.

This is the last thing I'll say on the matter. It's beyond embarrassing how this is playing out publicly. I specifically advised you go to pizza to hash things out privately and you refused. All of this should have been handled privately, but instead it's become a spectacle on plurk.

I never said anyone's names. You did.

Exactly. I never mentioned any specific names. You did. I don't need to paste the chat log. I'm sure you can see it right below.

TakagiGraves: You let me know what of yours you use to earn part of your living that you've sold for 25K L$ and a second gacha machine, then I'll believe you that you really believe them. I applaud you for sticking by a friend, but please find a way other than telling me the value of my property.

You reaching out to specific people based on me only saying "Pizza's friends" is pretty telling that you already assumed who I was talking about. Don't act like I dropped names and you just went to follow up. You assumed those names and proceeded to message all of them. I never used the word harassment, either.

That all of your actions have been intentional and deliberate and it's clear your personal vendetta with pizza is one you've tried pushing on several third parties. I'm only here because, once again, you brought my name into this situation. Now I'm stepping out because this entire spectacle is just embarrassing.

I'm confused, if things wanted to be solved privately, what use would it be if you guys are blocking/ignoring/removing each other or coming in here publicly and airing the dirty laundry? It's not really helping the situation and that way, there won't ever be a middle ground.

raises her hand to ask a question as a consumer who has frequented events and shopped I was not aware there was a split pay in the gachas that paid the event owners. Which gacha events use this split please?

Corvi: The only two events (past or present) that have used this model that I know of to date are The Arcade and PocketGacha. Both collected a percentage of creator's earnings vs. a flat fee for participation.