most of the reason for its failure was my failure as a mod to impose structure on it

but I think another big piece of the problem was that people just didn't want their characters to die

the idea behind it was that it would have rounds, each with a separate cast of characters, most of whom would die in the process

like, you know, a modern murdergame

i feel you

but back then I think there really wasn't a concept of murdergames as a standalone thing

i think around 2009 i tried to run that crack jamjar game set in an animu con

but i should never run a game lmfao

sammywhatammy: I remember that

it was a fun idea

but anyway, about the Fate/ game, I've been thinking about it because sometime in the years between when I left RP and now that I've sort of kind of come back, murdergames that go in rounds and most of the characters die have become A Thing

and I feel like part of the reason the Fate/ thing wasn't successful was that neither the players nor I as a mod had any model for what I was trying to do

I mean, my inspiration probably came from the CFUD spinoff Cry Wolf games, which I was a frequent participant in, but those were a noncanonical spinoff, regardless of what happened to your character they'd still be alive and well in the main game

so I feel like I was maybe ten years too early with that game and it might thrive in the current DWRP environment

which is not to say that I'm going to try to revive it, because I probably don't have the executive functioning required of a mod, and also everything in my life would have to stop being on fire for five minutes

at the moment it's hard enough to keep up with shit as a player

As someone who was in a Fate/ RP, it's really hard because it requires a lot of pairwork because of the master/servant concept, timezones, and communication

but it's really cool that you had had the idea so early on!

I remember it being fun and having fun. The problem was... yeah... there was no timetable for when to decide who died, or why.

bluecake: well I guess it was a good, like, two weeks

endlesseight: there is also that

sammywhatammy: well, I mean, I'm not trying to brag or anything

it's just that I see murdergame advertisements all over the place on my plurk timeline now and I think it's a funny culture shift

because I remember people being kind of resistant to the permanent character death concept

and to having it be randomly determined

and now that's just business as usual

in retrospect I should've volunteered Tohru to be killed first.

bluecake: hahaha

but yeah, you're right that the lack of timetable was an issue, which was partly me not knowing what I was doing, but also IIRC people didn't want it to be done by dice rolls so I was like "well I guess I'll just let people decide for themselves" and it didn't work

trying to please everybody all the time was another failure of my modding

no i didn't think you were; sorry if it sounded like i implied that

I think... yeah, also we let people app in whenever they wanted, iirc. There was no set 'round'. Or was there? Maybe I'm misremembering.

i just meant that it's really cool that you had an idea that that's how a fate/ game would have to work even if you weren't sure how to implement it until murdergames became popular

bluecake: I remember apps being closed after we got a certain set number of masters and servans

servants

I definitely remember my intention always being to do it in rounds rather than as a continuous thing

but I may be wrong

sammywhatammy: oh, no, it's okay, I just get nervous about how I come across

but thanks, anyway

ooh, right.