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9 years ago
Emmy Nominations are out!
Time to be mad about stuff.
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fayharley
9 years ago
Bouncing over the acting nominations, because I'm sure there's going to be plenty of those complains everywhere.
fayharley
9 years ago
So: Technical awards. What a mess.
fayharley
9 years ago
The production design for non period drama are: Constantine, Game of Thrones, Gotham, House of Cards, and True Blood.
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fayharley
9 years ago
Not just Gotham, the Gotham PILOT.
fayharley
9 years ago
I'm so insulted.
fayharley
9 years ago
The Stunt Coordination category is always so dumb that it's hardly worth getting mad about anymore, but the Daredevil snub there still stings.
fayharley
9 years ago
But inside gossip news: Apparently Daredevil submitted the first two episodes, the Fisk flashback episode, and the FINALE as their for your consideration pack so no wonder.
fayharley
9 years ago
The finale is just so terrible. A giant leap backwards aesthetically.
fayharley
9 years ago
They still should have been a stunt shoo-in for "Cut Man"
fayharley
9 years ago
Well at least Arrow's in good company as they get snubbed again this year.
fayharley
9 years ago
But for real, Daredevil should not have submitted the finale. They could have had a real shot at production design with a better episode.
fayharley
9 years ago
They were betting it all on Vincent D'Onofrio getting an acting nomination and lost hard.
herongale
9 years ago
I DON'T KNOW ENUOGH ABOUT THESE TOPICS TO GET MAD MYSELF BUT I AM SO HERE FOR GETTING MAD ON YOUR OWN BEHALF. Also I never saw Daredevil yet, so… would you mind explaining why it is such a bad snub????
herongale
9 years ago
I AM SURE YOU ARE RIGHT BUT I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHY
fayharley
9 years ago
Sure thing! I love talking about stunt stuff because it's a really overlooked because of how blandly most action movies and procedurals approach it.
fayharley
9 years ago
In terms of tv shows, stunt coordination is almost always the same thing as fight choreography because of filming constraints.
fayharley
9 years ago
Budget is a big one as well as scheduling, but the rise of prestige dramas and streaming services has decreased that impact.
fayharley
9 years ago
Right now the biggest factor is the size of tvs and other screens. Making something look good on a movie screen vs a tv vs a computer monitor.
fayharley
9 years ago
So smaller screens, so the action also has to be smaller. Fewer battles, fewer long car chases, more one on one stuff.
fayharley
9 years ago
And Daredevil really nailed the smaller scale (outside of the finale)
fayharley
9 years ago
Episode 2, "Cut Man", ends with a three minute long fight scene done in one take! Which Netflix has helpfully put on youtube for us: Marvel's Daredevil - Hallway Fight Scene - Netflix [...
fayharley
9 years ago
Probably because it was fucking everywhere the night it went up on Netflix because people were flipping out.
fayharley
9 years ago
The scene just nails so many really hard pieces of fight choreography.
fayharley
9 years ago
A lot of action movie will have the hero just blow through bad guys never breaking a sweat. When they punch someone, the guy stays down.
fayharley
9 years ago
Daredevil has Matt look exhausted as he struggles to win the fight. He's not instantly a great fighter, even though he's trained for it!
fayharley
9 years ago
Which is important for setting the tone for the series. You get from watching it that Matt's not been doing this hero thing long. He's just realizing how over the head he is but he keeps going.
fayharley
9 years ago
It's a great character piece, which is overlooked in action a lot.
fayharley
9 years ago
Plus it's just so well done. The camera turning to follow the action in the cramped hallway and the lighting is just so nice.
fayharley
9 years ago
Daredevil definitely had some episodes with less than ideal lighting. It's a dark show, but that doesn't mean it needs to be so dark I can't see it on my laptop, okay Netflix?
fayharley
9 years ago
But the hallway fight has good lighting. Moody without obscuring.
fayharley
9 years ago
The Emmys are often shallow in their nominations. The same shows get them every year.
fayharley
9 years ago
No one was expecting a best drama award for Daredevil, but the stunt thing seemed like a nice gimme.
fayharley
9 years ago
They did get a sound editing nomination, which is hilarious.
fayharley
9 years ago
"Award for best use of crunching bone in soundtrack"
fayharley
9 years ago
As far as the episodes picked to be submitted, I think just too many shows send pilots and finales. They're rarely the best ones.
fayharley
9 years ago
There's a lot of episodes that would have showcased a bigger rang for Daredevil. The ones they picked were heavy on the Kingpin role while the supporting cast had a weak showing.
fayharley
9 years ago
So it grates.
fayharley
9 years ago
I think Deborah Ann Woll could have had a shot as supporting actress with a stronger episode choice. Or at least got her name out there for future seasons.
fayharley
9 years ago
I guess she was technically a lead but the lead vs supporting categories in awards is always ridiculous.
fayharley
9 years ago
As far as production design, it's more complicated. I just hate how Gotham looks.
fayharley
9 years ago
It's trying to be gritty, but it's the shallow, predictable, surface level grittiness. Like soggy sandpaper.
fayharley
9 years ago
Maybe Daredevil isn't much better, but it looks amazing next to the rest of the MCU.
fayharley
9 years ago
The MCU just is weak in terms of style. The Avengers effect of trying to shove everything into the same box.
fayharley
9 years ago
Emmys and their technical awards. Always so many weird choices.
herongale
9 years ago
Alright, this hallway scene is totally awesome, and I completely see what you mean. It's coherent and interesting (I love how the door stays in the shot and is at an angle so it serves as an impromptu
herongale
9 years ago
platform and also inconvenient barrier) and yeah, the colors look sharp and interesting and you get a real visceral sense of what is happen and how it could actually happen like that irl. Really, really cool!!
herongale
9 years ago
I haven't really seen any of Gotham but everything I've heard about it makes it seem like a totally forgettable and sometimes totally awful show. I mean, I'm prejudiced against Batman related stuff to begin
herongale
9 years ago
with (the only Batman I liked was the cartoon and the movie where Jack Nicholson was the Joker but I liked those a LOTTT)
herongale
9 years ago
but even people who were primed to love it seemed to be dropping it heavily, early on.
fayharley
9 years ago
Gotham has a lot of problems as a concept. By setting it right after that Wayne's murders while Bruce is a kid means you can't have Batman villains running around
fayharley
9 years ago
but no one wants to watch Jim Gordon solve regular crimes so they have to twist themselves in knots making the timeline works.
fayharley
9 years ago
Combine that with the vagueness of the world building (what era is it? what technology is invented? who knows what?) and it's just style with nothing underneath.
fayharley
9 years ago
And the style isn't particularly unique or inspired. So it's just sort of there, its parts never forming a cohesive whole.
fayharley
9 years ago
I really appreciate your interest in these fringe media topics! Sadly I do not have much sexy Hollywood gossip to share, only weird screener drama.
herongale
9 years ago
NO THAT IS OKAY I DON'T CARE ABOUT SEXY HOLLYWOOD DRAMA NEARLY AS MUCH AS I CARE ABOUT THIS MORE TECHNICAL MINUTIA
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