“Alexander died in the hundred and fourteenth Olympiad, when Hegesias was archon in Athens. By Aristobulus’ reckoning, he was thirty-two years eight months old.

He was king of Macedonia for twelve years and eight months. […]
In my opinion, there was no race of men, no city in those times, not even a single man the name of Alexander had not reached.”

— Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander

and that is the day so very long later they first aired the epi where Rider bites it. So fitting.

hey, they had to have SOME shit be fitting about him, after all! lol

this is true. Waver was much closer to his actual stature than Rider was...

I'M STILL MAD THEY LEFT OUT THE JOKE ABOUT HIS HEIGHT

"History says you were really short!"
"Well I was, compared to Darius III! 8D"
"8|"

also he was sort of the MASTER STRATEGIST of the ancient world and someone who was educated and supported the arts and education, so there's that!

bacsojin: HAHAHA IKR

I live for that Clinton grudge-match talk, though.

I would pay to see Alexander the great fight a drunk hillbilly.

YES

AND I AM ALLOWED THESE JOKES COS I am from the land of drunk hillbillies and know and love them. Well, within certain parameters.

I like how he was written, and don't really hold some of the inaccuracies against them since none of the servants are 100% accurate, it goes with the territory. I would have liked to see more of the traits

he became famous for in action, though

and I hate how fandom just takes the BRORIDER thing and runs it into the damn ground

He's a bit BRO for me, honestly? But I think all told, they pull of a few sides of his essence. He was a renaissance man before his time, but yeah, he was a man of action, definitely!

I think for me it's that in show they have him make these AWFUL strategic decisions. Which I think is really just bad. But yeah, THAT and the BRO thing...

you mean like WHY SHOULD WE CARE ABOUT ASSASSIN?

|D

AHEM YES WHY SHOULD WE

or WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT CASTER

it's not like the point is to wipe out your enemies or anything...

WHAT?! I mean, why would he think that? It's not like to be a conquerer you would have a sense of timing and strategy...

OR WOULD YOU.

THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW

Haha, but for all my complaining, I do love him, and he and Waver are a highlight of the show for me.

I'm also a shipper like whoa for those two, but I try not to let it frame my arguments!

yeah, they are my favorite team uwu

It's like WHY SHIP THEM WITH ANYONE ELSE IT IS TAILOR MADE ALEXANDER WAS BI WAVER IS HOT WHAT IS THE ISSUE it's the bara isn't it, no one likes the bara but me... T___T

YOU ARE NOT ALONE, LOTS OF PEOPLE SHIP IT, IT IS VERY POPULAR!

Haha, oh I know, I hoard it when I see it! I guess it's just not the popular thing in my immediate rp circles!

I do not, but I don't see it as a ship that OMG ~CAN'T HAPPEN~. It just doesn't hold interest for me.

unless fox is playing Rider, then I'm like WELP.

Fox cheats.

Haha I TOTES respect that! I'm really very live and let live about ships, unless it involves any NOPES of mine, which are very few.

OH I KNOW. THAT BASTARD.

same here!

and it's cause Fox plays him to be more historically accurate, which changes the dynamic enough for me.

Oh yeah, Fox can't abide BRO RIDER either! It's not a BIG CLUB, but it's a club!

YES WE HAVE SHARED OUR HATE OF BRORIDER TOGETHER IT WAS LOVELY

NOW WE ARE 3

my ex-housemate turned up the brostuff really really badly and followed me to every single game I apped Waver to and it was the most frustrating thing

Ugh, I'm SO SORRY about that. What a turn off!

yeah

it wasn't just "I PLAY BRORIDER AND FEEL ENTITLED TO A SHIP WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU LIVE WITH ME", it was that plus "THE BRO IS OVER 9000!!!!!"

Haha I am glad you guys like my Rider

IT IS A GOOD RIDER

THANKS

I just have to be less self-conscious about him haha

Bro Rider gets on my nerves too, it is always so overdone from what it is like in the show

Though I'm annoyed that the show took the greatest strategist character and gave him no strategy--mostly because it seems like lazy writing

YOUR RIDER IS BEST

Exactly. Lazy. Writing.

yeah, if he were played faithful to the show it wouldn't grate on me at all. But I've seen very few who aren't playing him specifically to get his bro on.

Seriously! It's one of those things where a trait from the show gets blown way out of proportion by players

YEAH YOU ARE IN

Yeah, I find it just unplayable when anyone does that to a character. Makes them one-note and just fucking insufferable.

And to do it to ALEXANDER THE GREAT/RIDER of all people!

Even in-show he's more complex than that.

YAY THE CLUB HAS MORE MEMBERS uwu

Yeah, I think that's right!

WE ARE LEGION