Three weeks till graduation and I am about to go beserk on my senior project class. Fandom 2.0 has produced some of the most entitled, egotistical and inept writers I have ever come across.

10 years ago

You guys have no idea what a generation that grew up without fandom wank and fanficrants produced.

10 years ago

I don't use plurk often but I am so fucking livid. These kids are monsters. They literally use all their parents money to major in fandom.

10 years ago

It's senior goddamn project and all they talk about is 'their feels' or their fucking fandom or whatever the fuck they saw on tumblr the day before

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10 years ago

And if you call them out on it they bitch that it's not fair for you to make them feel childish

10 years ago

It's like, bitch, you're using your parents money to write fanfiction. Bad ones, at that. And then you think you're so much better than the students who aren't in fandom?

10 years ago

Literally, this is a thing.

10 years ago

They think they're better writers because they follow fandom on tumblr

10 years ago

Fandom Wank used to exist to keep these little cretins from existing.

10 years ago

What happened in the past five years?

10 years ago

These kids completely lack self awareness or the ability to take criticism or the ability to look at their writing objectively

10 years ago

They disrupt class because OMGLOL THAT LINE TOTALLY REMINDED ME OF DOCTOR WHO

10 years ago

Bitch, I was in fandom when you were in elementary school. I am a bigger nerd than you three put together but I don't fucking feel that entitles me to disrupt class because I think I'm better than everyone else

10 years ago

Every. Fucking. Class. Our last class in senior project and they treat it like it's Tumblr Time

10 years ago

And the professor lets them get away with it because their jobs rely on student feedback

10 years ago

So I'm the one to tell them to shut the fuck up, settle down or fucking leave. And then I have to listen to their fucking attitude over fucking facebook

10 years ago

'because face to face confrontation gives me anxiety'

10 years ago

Then why the fuck do you want to be a television writer? You realize 80% of that job involves yelling at people because 10 writers can't decide on one good idea?

10 years ago

10 years ago

Do not fucking come into class, literally kick off your shoes, put your gross ass bare feet on the chair and then bitch about fanfiction you read in a senior project class

10 years ago

Jesus.

10 years ago

Fuck SCAD, Crystal

10 years ago

Do not fucking come here

10 years ago

These little shits destroyed the damn school

10 years ago

Not gonna have to worry about that, but. Wow.

10 years ago

My boyfriend is a TA for Sequential Arts Senior Project and he says it's the same damn thing

10 years ago

30 kids in his class, 3 actually brought in their midterms.

10 years ago

His professor is a badass but he can't do anything either in case he wants to keep his job

10 years ago

Same with my professor. He comes to thank me for telling the idiots to shut the fuck up but it's like, dude. I have my own shit to take care of. I can't deal with these brats when I am three weeks from being

10 years ago

a jobless foreigner with a green card ready to expire

10 years ago

What happened? Used to be that if you met someone in fandom, I don't fucking know. You knew to expect some kind of decorum.

10 years ago

Yeah, you'd feel them out. I just had that experience last week.

10 years ago

Oh?

10 years ago

What happened?

10 years ago

Because you don't want to go Full Fangirl in front of someone who you don't know if they're gonna flip shit or not.

10 years ago

Oh, had another geek show up in my work center! She was very socially awkward, but not a bad kid.

10 years ago

Not only that, but a time and a place. You go full fangirl when it's appropriate. We did!

10 years ago

But your place of work? Which class is? Absolutely not.

10 years ago

And it's not being passionate, either. Fandom passionate used to involve the ability to engage in critical goddamn thinking

10 years ago

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, not when you're supposed to be doing work. Especially not during class. Wait til afterwards.

10 years ago

That's what I told this one kid when he flipped out. Wait until after class. Apparently that, too, 'triggered his bipolar.' That he was never diagnosed with, that he was never medicated for.

10 years ago

Second time one quarter he dropped that on me.

10 years ago

Look, CD. SCAD is a fucking mess.

10 years ago

Paula Wallace has run this shit into the ground.

10 years ago

She has neutered the professors and job placement is a joke.

10 years ago

Oh man. :<

10 years ago

The Sequential Professors are dropping out en masse. That department gets the shaft because the professors who don't baby the students get threatened

10 years ago

My department coddles the students and we get Tumblr: The Major

10 years ago

You read something on tumblr, you can guarantee you'll have it parroted over and over in class.

10 years ago

Can't wait til they try to get jobs at any major comics company.

10 years ago

YEP. Truth is?

10 years ago

They don't.

10 years ago

They can't take crticism for shit.

10 years ago

They probably don't even care, since Mom and Dad will pay their way.

10 years ago

They pay for a piece of paper and that's it.

10 years ago

YEP

10 years ago

Some of the SENIOR PROJECT work Dan brings home to grade is staggering

10 years ago

Because the professors aren't allowed to hold these kids back.

10 years ago

CD it's not worth it. You will get a better, more rounded education at CC

10 years ago

Where you will have other adults who take their shit seriously

10 years ago

I miss CC so much.

10 years ago

People fucking cared about their classes. They payed attention, they did their work.

10 years ago

In this school the kids don't do their work, get failed, their parents threaten to sue, and oh magically they pass the class.

10 years ago

This happens so many damn times. It's draining. These kids are little leeches. They suck your energy and your patience.

10 years ago

if you take what you're doing seriously you're just an 'elitist'

10 years ago

That's right. This is a thing in this school.

10 years ago

You take yourself seriously, you take your class seriously, and you're an elitist.

10 years ago

What happened? These kids claim to be fandom, but jesus CD

10 years ago

This wasn't the attitude in our fandom. This attitude got mocked in and out.

10 years ago

Just curious, is theory involved a lot in this program or is it more hands on?

10 years ago

A girl brought in a script to class that was basically plagarized off Castle. But because she's in fandom, she mocks this other girl for 'only writing about black things.'

10 years ago

It is if you do the reading and listen to the lectures, if that makes sense.

10 years ago

We have required reading we're almost never quizzed on, but if you do the reading you'll get the gist of it.

10 years ago

The fandom kids don't do the reading because they think they know it all, the few kids who got into writing because they were curious do the reading and they improve exponentially

10 years ago

H-How. How do you join for writing and just blow off all your reading.

10 years ago

Because they know it all because they write fanfiction

10 years ago

Swear to goddamn christ

10 years ago

'I've been writing since I was 13 I know all this stuff' is something you hear a lot

10 years ago

Ah, okay, and yeah, wouldn't reading be necessary for content? Like, my intro to Cultural Studies course (which kinda sounds like this more in a mass media sense) started with Marxism. MARXISM.

10 years ago

I had a chick honestly tell me it doesn't matter if your antagonist is fleshed out or not. Joss Whedon's weren't, and Joss Whedon is a great writer. It's like, dude, I loved Joss Whedon, but dude has his faults

10 years ago

LOL

10 years ago

HEAD OF DEPARTMENT told me History isn't relevant to writers

10 years ago

Wouldn't it be necessary to understand mass media through theory to...be able to write for mass media.

10 years ago

As he pulled me, on threat of not graduation, from an 18th century art history class

10 years ago

WHAT NO.

10 years ago

My pilot is for the Plantagenets, my play is about Anne Boleyn, and my feature is for Go Daigo

10 years ago

YUP

10 years ago

This is the head of department

10 years ago

Who also bitches to me about how these kids have no sense of character development

10 years ago

It's like. Bitch. You know what's great for that? Fucking HISTORY.

10 years ago

We had a Survey of Theater I class fall. Same gaggle of fandom. Bitched the whole time about how Greek Drama is not relevant to our current mode of writing.

10 years ago

Incapable of critical thinking. If you see on Tumblr on Monday that Doctor Who is the greatest thing, tuesday they'll say Doctor Who is the greatest thing. Wednesday Doctor Who sucks, thursday Doctor Who sucks

10 years ago

Oh gosh. I mean, PoliSci kids are still learning Plato and Aristotle, history is important.

10 years ago

If you question these kids on their rationale, they can't explain it. Because they're reading other people's opinions online and taking it as fact.

10 years ago

Yup.

10 years ago

One of these kids realized she doesn't care about writing. Decides she's getting a masters in International Relations. 'Because I like money.'

10 years ago

It's like. Bitch. My background is in international relations. You couldn't stop giggling when a student was reading their work because it wasn't as important as your doctor who in joke.

10 years ago

You pull that shit in International Relations and you will get fucking chewed out.

10 years ago

A girl got accepted into a 70,000$ masters in screenwriting program

10 years ago

Described it as 'punching responsibility in the face'

10 years ago

Paying completely out of pocket. Has brought in a single script to senior project that was this close to being outright plagarism of Castle

10 years ago

Describes any book that isn't aimed at a Young Adult audience as 'too slow.'

10 years ago

I have to keep reminding myself how spoiled these kids would be because US tuition is so high so they are literally wasting like 100 000.

10 years ago

Easily. 40,000$ undergrad, 70,000$ masters

10 years ago

Out of pocket

lizzymonster is

10 years ago

it per year or lump sum?

10 years ago

Lump sum

10 years ago

Jeez.

10 years ago

$4,000 per class in SCAD. Miss almost every class they can just short of failing.

10 years ago

Show up, and like I said. Kick off their shoes, put up their bare ass feet everywhere and just don't care.

10 years ago

This is just. I don't get where this happened.

10 years ago

WHY ARE THEY THERE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO LEARN it's a WASTE.

10 years ago

Because they want their ego stroked. You don't know what fandom did to these kids. They think by virtue of being in fandom they are JK Rowling or Joss Whedon themselves.

10 years ago

They don't even bother trying and think they're better than the students that do.

10 years ago

A boy who sucked in fall got his shit together for senior project and these kids will not let up on him because they think they are that much better than him.

10 years ago

Wow.

10 years ago

They can't write something that isn't about themselves or derivative of their favourite shows but they are so much better than the other kids.

10 years ago

I have heard 'It's like Big Bang Theory but with me and my friends and Geek friendly humour.' and 'It's about my World of Warcraft RP and it's like The Guild meets Game of Thrones.'

10 years ago

I get being inspired by certain writers but that's all it is, it's inspiration in more of the 'this story makes me want to get into this field, too' not 'I will just change the names of things

10 years ago

Exactly! Shit, that's what it should be. Inspiration. Like 'holy shit I want to find out more about this writer's genre, their inspirations, what makes them so good.'

10 years ago

So you focus on how do they do their characterization? What do I like about them? What don't I like about them? How can I learn from them? If I could do it better, how would I?

10 years ago

You think critically.

10 years ago

I fucking love Joss Whedon, have since I was ten. I have studied his stuff enough that I know he has major, major weak points.

10 years ago

Mentioned that to one of these kids and she got offended.

10 years ago

Honest to god her response was 'well antagonists don't always have to have motivation, that's just his style.'

10 years ago

Look at you guys who love Kubo Tite. You know what makes him awesome, you also know where he's weak. And you discuss it.

10 years ago

That's how it should be. That's critical thinking.

10 years ago

That's thinking like a writer.

10 years ago

These kids will have a conniption if you dare suggest that George R R Martin's Song of Ice and Fire had some major problems.

10 years ago

Again, I love Joss Whedon. This girl got genuinely offended when I said I think he can't write human antagonists.

10 years ago

Well, some of us discuss things critically

10 years ago

Yeeeeeah

10 years ago

These Ichiruki fans are from this generation of fandom, I guarantee it

10 years ago

It's the same thing.

10 years ago

Sounds like it, yes. Veeeeeeeeery familiar.

10 years ago

'UM SHE CAN'T HAVE FLAWS BECAUSE FEMINISM' fuuuuuck yooooouuuuuu

10 years ago

That sounds like a Whedon fan

10 years ago

My plantagenets script is about the war between King Stephen and Empress Maude of England. One of these girls was upset because why didn't Maude just kill her abusive husband and stop being a victim?

10 years ago

The geek girl I met at work was like WHEDON IS THE BEST WRITER EVAR!!! and I'm like "Fuck his work on X-Men tho"

10 years ago

Bitch. It's fucking 1109.

10 years ago

UUUUGH RIIIIGHT?

10 years ago

People who have never encountered real life abuse: The Movie.

10 years ago

GOD why don't all those women in abusive relationships just kill their abusers, that's realistic, right?

10 years ago

Although ngl I'd love to see whatever shit they'd come up with. It'd be like My Immortal.

10 years ago

YUP. Why doesn't she just Buffy her way out of this??? Buffy is strong womenz????

10 years ago

Yeah and don't you dare criticize My Immortal

10 years ago

Just shit happening for no fucking reason, unfathomable character motivations, bad guys being bad for the sake of being bad.

10 years ago

Mary Sue is a gendered concept made to keep strong women down

10 years ago

Because strong women don't have flawd

10 years ago

YES

10 years ago

YES YES YES

10 years ago

That is my beef with Joss Whedon!

10 years ago

But you can't both like a writer's ideas and also think they have some major flaws?

10 years ago

It's the same with George R R Martin. Dude. I read the books. I like them. But dude cannot do grey area characterization

10 years ago

Same as Joss Whedon

10 years ago

Joss Whedon needs to stop pretending he invented feminism. I s2g did you see his speech where he was like "GUYS I CAME UP WITH THIS GREAT WORD THAT MEANS SEXISM BUT IS BETTER THAN SEXISM"

10 years ago

But don't you dare say that. When the show writers gave Cersei motivation for doing the violent things she did it was misogyny because strong womenz don't need motivation!

10 years ago

OH MY GOD

10 years ago

"I'M NOT GONNA SAY I'M A BETTER FEMINIST THAN ALL OF YOU, BUT I DEFINITELY JUST WON FEMINISM

10 years ago

His 'I'm the only male feminist'

10 years ago

Dude

10 years ago

Fucking dude

10 years ago

Stop embarrassing yourself Joss

10 years ago

Remember the "Ever had sex with a warrior woman" monologue in firefly?

10 years ago

Yeeeeeah buddy

10 years ago

Feminist totally

10 years ago

Mmmm skrung womyn yes.

10 years ago

Remember Buffy's "I have muscles in places you've never ever heard of I can ride you till you pass out"

10 years ago

Yeeeeaaaahhh buuudddyyy

10 years ago

Ever read his run on X-Men? It's all Emma and Kitty being bitches at each other while Emma whines about Scott thinking about his dead wife when SHE HAD BREAST IMPLANTS, GOD SCOTT PAY ATTENTION.

10 years ago

YES

10 years ago

OH DUDE

10 years ago

KITTY AND COLOSSUS?

10 years ago

OH MY FUCKING CHRIST

10 years ago

I was like "Where is the plot. Where is plot. stop. staaaaaaaahp."

10 years ago

The thing that bugs me is the hipocrisy

10 years ago

He doesn't write strong women for the sake of strength. The more you read the more obvious it becomes he just fetishises these women

10 years ago

His interviews are really revealing, and it's why when he writes a long running series they inevitable decline in quality.

10 years ago

*inevitable

10 years ago

WOW I CANNOT WRITE EITHER

10 years ago

Again, he can't write a strong woman without her strength somehow being tied to her sexuality.

10 years ago

Shit that was like the whole point of Dollhouse.

10 years ago

Dude writes a mean set of dialogue but he's weak in plot and characterization

10 years ago

His antagonists are so badly written it hurts. He's a comic book writer at heart and he never detached from that mentality of antagonists being there solely to make the protagonists look cool.

10 years ago

I honestly can't remember the antagonist in his run of X-Men.

10 years ago

BUT YES KITTY AND COLOSSUS BARF

10 years ago

I used to think that ship was cute. NEVER AGAIN.

10 years ago

It was but he had to get creepy on it. It was just so dehumanizing.

10 years ago

I love superhero romance, I do.

10 years ago

But he made it so damn. Ugh.

10 years ago

I love romance where it all ties in. Batman and Catwoman is my jam. But he stripped Kitty of any kind of motivation.

10 years ago

Dehumanizing is the only way I can describe it. The Kitty/Colossus bit just annoyed me and it was exactly because I shipped it.

10 years ago

But he made it so damn... Dehumanizing.

10 years ago

Colossus had the personality of wet cardboard.

10 years ago

Rachel/Kitty 4 lyfe after that shit t b h

10 years ago

Both of them did. He did the classic badfic writer and completely stripped both Kitty and Colossus of their personalities in order to ship them.

10 years ago

And it was sad.

10 years ago

I won't lie?

10 years ago

Kitty/X-23

10 years ago

I HAVE NO SHAME but I fucking love those two

10 years ago

But christ the Scott/Emma thing was SO FUCKING AWFUL.

10 years ago

UUUUGH

10 years ago

Well Emma

10 years ago

Poor emma

10 years ago

Why do writers hate Emma so damn much?

10 years ago

Yes, god. :<

10 years ago

Remember when Emma wasn't just That Skank?

10 years ago

I am so tired of this Jean Madonna/ Emma Whore dichotomy

10 years ago

YES.

10 years ago

IT WAS THE SAME AS CATWOMAN. She had the same thing. What made her BAMF was Emma got shit done.

10 years ago

When she was a teacher - a REAL TEACHER - and a bad bitch and didn't need to validate her position as HBIC by being the Leader's Generic Dick Candy?

10 years ago

She had her own goddamn agenda. She had shit to do.

10 years ago

EXACTLY.

10 years ago

Poor Emma. :<<

10 years ago

Butbut if you want to have two characters bang the chick must become Pure for the dude

10 years ago

God did they pull that with Catwoman

10 years ago

Catwoman can't be Batman's love interest and a villain!!!

10 years ago

She must be redeemed for the bat!dick

10 years ago

And then she became just another she-Batman in a throng of she-Batmen

10 years ago

She was like Emma. She had her own shit to do and these doe eyed good guys on their heels.

10 years ago

It was awesome.

10 years ago

But naw, man. If we want them to hook up they must be p~u~r~

10 years ago

Again, Stryng wymz have no flaaaaws

10 years ago

I'm a feminist I believe strong women must be this close to the virgin mary

10 years ago

strong women can do no wrong much strong

10 years ago

Joss Whedon and his ilk brought about this weird new feminism among young women that is this close to being goddamn puritanism?