People like clutching at their pearls at a disney star having her rebellion stage.

i mean, i can say "it's probably a big deal because of x and y" but for the most part I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE SO OBSESSED OVER X AND Y, so yeah.

I don't grok it

All I know from this??

i know like intellectually but I just don't get why people care.

my problem is that gurllll that aint no motherfucking twerk

i mean, hey, it's not something I would've done? But whatever, she's a fucking adult and if you're relying on pop musicians to be your kids' "good role models", you've got bigger issues

RakuRanger: haha THAT I GET.

Also I hate Thicke and I hate that song LOL

and yeah, i hate thicke and that song, but like. so what? I don't really like miley's music either, so whatever.

i mean, this probably somewhat ties back into my opinions on like. parenting and letting people do their own thing, so. XD

but whatever, if miley had a good time, then whatever man. go her for being confident enough in herself to do it, even if she regrets it later.

I dunno, I'm ambivalent about it.

I don't really care, but on the other hand...I wonder if it's some sort of Lindsay Lohan-style cry for help.

Yeah that's my one big worry.

yeah, I mean, I am a little worried. about HER though, not about all the things people are all clutching their pearls over.

Worse things she could be doing, but this could be just another step towards an early grave.

Oh yeah. It was kind of gross, but that's a style opinion, rather than a moral one.

The whole "think of the children!!" outcry is kind of ridiculous but at the same time I'm worried that it's not a sign that she's going to end up ODing on cocaine or something.

I'm hoping it's just a period of figuring out what SHE wants to do and going hardcore on the "not a disney girl" image to try to separate herself from hannah montana and shit.

its dumb and who cares.

Yeah, I really hope she's just rebelling against her previous wholesome image and isn't divebombing off the deep end.

It pissed me off SO MUCH that CNN had to talk about it for like 2 hours straight on monday

magicnme: ugh seriously??? wtf that's not fucking NEWS.

She's an adult, if she wants to twerk on the VMAs I don't care stop complaining people.

it's gossip.

ARE THERE NOT MORE INTERESTING STORIES GOING ON?

LIKE OH I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT SHIT GOING DOWN IN EGYPT?

Nothing better in the world to talk about than Miley on the VMAs?

Well CNN can't report on Syria or something important like that because everyone knows Americans don't watch the news for real news.

fucking hate news networks.

Egypt, Syria, a whole LOT of important global shit

WHAT LITTLE NEWS I GET, I GET FROM THE DAILY SHOW, NO LIE.

its like the breakdown I had last spring

When Carnival's shit ship got nearly 12 hours of live CNN coverage.

I learnt about the fires in California from freaking AlJazeera I didn't even learn about it from my usually reliable local news

It's a dead in the water cruise ship with serious health concerns over plumbing issues. We get it.

ugh, like. i get so little REAL news because i can't stand sifting through the bullshit on news sites.

We do not need a 12 hr minute to minute coverage of towing the thing into port, ALL DAY

what bothers me is that if you're American you now have to jump through hoops to get AJ's stream.

Because they've decided to dumb down their news for America now.

kamex: really? that's a pain. :c

Yep. :c

you can't even access the international news anymore unless you have a direct link

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gonna go get some actual fucking news, in summary at least, from the last month of daily show episodes.

Isn't that sad that one of the best sources for news is fucking Comedy Central?

more people are complaining about cultural appropriation. Then her sexing it up

...twerking isn't cultural appropriation unless women shaking their asses belongs to a specific race now.

yeah, that's some whole other thing i am not gonna get involved in due to being white as shit. /throws hands up

I'm white as shit too, but I've seen African women get really offended over it so /shrug just going to stay out of it.

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it's not the ass shaking but the how she is doing it persay I can see some of what they are saying

Yeah a lot of the criticism has come from like, women of color pointing out that she was using black women as props in the act too, perpetuating a culture of white women commodifying black womens' bodies.

Yeah that part is awful.

I read some really good articles about this just yesterday. If I can find them I'll link them.

jezebel.com/okay-but-can...

For me, the problems I saw with it had a lot to do with the sexualization of innocence, and the implications of drug use

She looked fucking drunk

and wasn't even on time with the music

Yeah no doubt it was being aimed at a gross crowd that at no point should people actually be advertising towards.

Beyond that, the fact that Robin Thicke is much older that her, and was singing Blurred Lines while dirty dancing with someone who was singing about doing Molly and coke

Robin Thicke is a scumbag.

he is also married with kids

Yeep.

The whole situation was pretty problematic.

but his wife got interviewed and she said something along the lines of that did not happen in rehearsal and she was surprised MC did that.

gross

Overall, though, the fact that most people seem to be having a "this is wrong" reaction to it is good, though, imo.

Also, yeah, Miley didn't look sober. She probably took something ahead of time.

I wouldn't be surprised.

I mean, as someone who generally thinks the internet's reaction to RL stuff is seriously overblown? I felt like this time it was totally justified.

I was pretty much wasted during it, and my best friend said I went on a rant about how nothing about it was good.

jezebel.com/on-miley-cyr...

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As far as Miley appropriating ratchet culture.....let's just say that I don't sit with any white people at work, and all of them think it's hilarious.

Oh I read that one too

Oh shit, this is what I get for being ignorant of pop culture in general. This shit is gross as fuck and I apologize for not realize all of the crap she's done.

snickerdoodled: my sister in law ( non white person ) and older brother ( non white person ) think it's pretty funny too. But still see how it's probabilistic.

no, she's definitely doing a lot of problematic shit that I didn't know about (some of it because I've only seen clips and didn't see any of the dancers) but like.

spending days and hours at a time talking about it on NEWS NETWORKS and acting like she's somehow BETRAYED people by doing it, like. okay, yeah. it was gross. discuss the ACTUAL

problematic aspects of it, in forums where those discussions are meant to take place. Which at this point is NOT THE NEWS NETWORKS, at least not to the extent it's been discussed.

just, seriously. they could cover actual fucking news.

but most of what i've seen people talking about is like "omg so slutty" "omg but she's a role model" "omg wow that performance was the suckiest thing ever" and i'm just like

^this

i don't get the obsession with how bad it was. OKAY COOL. SO. DON'T LISTEN TO HER MUSIC?

WHY DO YOU CARE?

I would understand if they were talking about the racial implications

yeah, but nobody is. maybe somewhere on tumblr, i haven't been there lately. but news stations? nope.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that she's a former disney star, and a lot of kids look up to her/who she was

but i could care less about the sluttyness or rolmodalness of it

In that context, if I was a parent, I would be royally pissed, too.

but again, NOT REALLY WHAT NEWS NETWORKS ARE FOR

i can get parents being mad and that's fair. but seriously, i feel like they probably should've already gotten their kids off her by now.

totally

but where do you talk about it when someone in the public light is pulling racest using people as props shit?

I can see that being news worthy

Not her doing slutty

but the cultural implications of this need to be talked about publicly

and not in the OMGWTF Tumblr way

Exactly. Well, I think all of the topics (the racism, the drugs, the sex) are all things that need to be addressed

The media isn't handling it well, but it's definitely something that needs to be addressed within our culture

I mean, honestly, as a party girl who doesn't really give a crap? I like that it's being addressed. There's a lot of stuff within our younger culture that needs to be talked about.

Miley is just a good way to address it, and maybe set an example as a "see, here's where you should be making some better choices."

I don't mind the party girl thing everyone goes through that phase, it's more the racial issues and her expressing her sexuality using black women as props.

I wish the media did handle it well, because it's a huge thing in America that people like to pretend that we as a country are over and we're not.

Yeah, the media is doing a shit job, basically. But hey, Miley is getting more coverage than Syria.....so that's a thing.

which is my biggest problem with it. talk about it, even on the news, but not for hours on end at the expense of shit that like. REALLY SHOULD BE COVERED?

REALLY REALLY RIGHT NOW BADLY?

^this

we are on the same page S

I can see like a 15 minute piece then going to you know Seriya

I give no currs about the half naked dancing but I do have problems with the racial stuff after seeing black women upset about the racial stuff.

I think I saw someone word it really well where what bothered them is the whole thing where some white people try to use aspects of their culture to be edgy and hip but black people do those things and they're

ghetto trash

So if it bugs some people I can see why it bugs some people.

Other than that, who care?

The news needs to cover stuff that's important, way too much pearlclutching going on over her being a former child star blah blah

Don't like it, then don't raise your kids to wear vinyl panties and twerk on stage. and if they do anyway, don't judge 'em

Maybe question their life choices but whatevs.

Girl can't twerk right to save her life tho.

Like she needs to stop but that's just because if you can't pull off a dance move right, you need to stop trying it.

At least when it comes to performance

I can't dance for beans so I wouldn't be caught dead trying to do it in any area where I was supposed to get paid for it.

This. This this this yes. You always say things better than me. XD

kirajlane: this

Yeah. And this is a repeated pattern because she's done interviews re: the twerking and other aspects before where she's like "Black is just a feeling"