epidemico
11 years ago
[fandom] i don't get people up in arms about the lack of people of color in the Lord of the Rings
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epidemico
11 years ago
I mean, I get it. Most media leans primarily toward catering to white, heterosexual males.
epidemico
11 years ago
But -- I guess the way I see it is that it's primarily a work of fiction focusing on building a unique, personal mythology/epic for the English people?
epidemico
11 years ago
Exclusive for them, I mean. (King Arthur notwithstanding, because they share that with France iirc.)
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epidemico
11 years ago
So I'm like -- would you complain at the same time that, say, a movie about the epic of Gilgamesh had only one white character in the film?
epidemico
11 years ago
Or that Les Miserables had no Native Americans in it?
epidemico
11 years ago
Stuff like that
epidemico
11 years ago
And I get that it's a fantasy world, and that fantasy worlds don't have to follow rules or anything -- but Middle Earth, as it is now, is how Tolkein designed it to be. And I very much doubt he did what he
epidemico
11 years ago
did because he was racist, or secretly thought all dark-skinner people were evil.
epidemico
11 years ago
I don't know, maybe I don't "get" it.
epidemico
11 years ago
*skinned
go rimbaud
11 years ago
i think part of the problem is that there are people of color in middle-earth
go rimbaud
11 years ago
and they are, in fact, all villainous but also irrelevant
epidemico
11 years ago
royaltimes: Yeah, I get that as well. That personally made me a bit uncomfortable when I read about it.
go rimbaud
11 years ago
i also don;t know how many people see it as exclusively english, or what that means say for english arabs that the only non-white people are the haradwaith
epidemico
11 years ago
That's the thing, Tolkien as far as I've researched/been taught wrote the thing exclusively as being a way for the English people to have their own unique mythology
epidemico
11 years ago
So it's very much steeped in being "English" -- and there's precedence in the history of English Lit. that anything seen as being "Oriental"
epidemico
11 years ago
Or from the East
epidemico is
11 years ago
either highly sexualized, violent, or "evil." But it's not in a bad way? (Or inherently bad.) but more tempting.
epidemico
11 years ago
Like in Othello -- the main character kills himself, in the end, because his Moor heritage "damns" him.
go rimbaud
11 years ago
i'm not sure if that can be not bad really, it's the underlying jingoism and bigotry inherent to nationalism
epidemico
11 years ago
Yeah, no. I agree.
epidemico
11 years ago
And the excuse that "Well, that's just the way it was back then." in regards to both Tolkien times and less modern times (re: Lit.) shouldn't fly either.
epidemico
11 years ago
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I understand what they're coming from, but as a person of color it makes me feel slightly uneasy
epidemico
11 years ago
*where
epidemico
11 years ago
*it makes me slightly uneasy that re-imagining classic works to be more inclusive is becoming a thing
go rimbaud
11 years ago
yeah that's perfectly fair i think
epidemico
11 years ago
Like, sometimes I feel like it borders slightly on the fetishistic -- and I know that's not how everyone feels, but yeah. just my 2 cents
epidemico
11 years ago
shadowpact: as a dark-skinned person i am uniquely offended by this :|
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