AWL
2011-11-17T14:22:56.000Z
Interesting. Sudden jump to gender neutral pronouns in Exiles. Brief but present.
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studly boops
2011-11-17T14:27:24.000Z
... really? I didn't notice. At what point is this?
AWL
2011-11-17T14:35:09.000Z
Single sentence as Optimus is about to meet Vector. Every bot present felt down to its spark....last thing it ever did.
AWL
2011-11-17T14:35:50.000Z
All 'male' bots, you'd never use that with a group of humans.
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AWL
2011-11-17T14:36:31.000Z
Also, Vector. Meh. Could have been worse. Mostly just dull.
AWL
2011-11-17T14:37:08.000Z
I like the idea of the 13 as enormous compared to other bots though.
studly boops
2011-11-17T15:16:38.000Z
I will continue to put my fingers in my ears and consider TFs genderless beings and that he/she are stylistic choices.
studly boops
2011-11-17T15:17:08.000Z
Vector is going to sit in his pocket dimension and listen to Linkin Park, and not even the plot shall pry him from his brooding.
AWL
2011-11-17T15:35:59.000Z
Yes, style or 'best effort' translations of things. Though any kind of robot gender makes me twitch.
studly boops
2011-11-17T15:42:34.000Z
Oh, I meant on the part of the robots. "I like the three-letter pronoun better. I'll use that one."
studly boops
2011-11-17T15:42:54.000Z
I guess it would be awkward to refer to them all as "it" throughout the book.
studly boops
2011-11-17T15:43:36.000Z
I would, however, accept that gender = alt mode, but then you'd need a new pronoun for boats, jets, cars, cassettes...
AWL
2011-11-17T15:49:11.000Z
I used to feel like that ref using 'it' then I read Iain M Banks' Culture novels
AWL
2011-11-17T15:49:51.000Z
And all the machine charactets are 'it' in there. It works.
AWL
2011-11-17T15:50:41.000Z
Alt mode pronouns, yes. That I could get behind.
studly boops
2011-11-17T15:53:03.000Z
Maybe? I guess I'd have to read them and get used to it.
studly boops
2011-11-17T15:53:30.000Z
Calling people 'it' is pretty insulting so that 'hey that's not nice' reaction is what first comes to mind.
AWL
2011-11-17T15:57:25.000Z
Hard to describe really, perhaps he does a better job of not making them human? It's never used as an insult.
AWL
2011-11-17T15:58:01.000Z
In fact, assigning gender where the machine hasn't specified is!
studly boops
2011-11-17T16:07:02.000Z
That, I could definitely see.
studly boops
2011-11-17T16:07:18.000Z
"You are male."
"Uh, excuse me, I'm a spaceship. Rude."
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