katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:41:43.000Z
[ff13] ARGH okay so like
latest #224
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:41:51.000Z
I've been watching Evee play this game for about a month now.
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:41:58.000Z
And right now she's at the end fighting Orphan
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:42:10.000Z
and during this ENTIRE SCENE i feel like
立即下載
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:42:24.000Z
when they were storyboarding it, they accidentally dropped some papers on the floor then said something like
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:42:30.000Z
"eh, we'll just leave that scene out"
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:42:33.000Z
SO CONFUSED adjfkl.
shamera
2011-07-06T03:42:51.000Z
:-o What part was confusing?
shamera
2011-07-06T03:42:57.000Z
although I'm not disagreeing. XD;
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:43:16.000Z
So dysley fuses with...orphan for some reason
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:43:22.000Z
and gives a long speech
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:43:30.000Z
and suddenly fang attacks vanille? i don't understand why
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:43:39.000Z
then that ENTIRE FIVE MINUTES afterward doesn't make any sense to me
pazu
2011-07-06T03:43:59.000Z
I was a little confused at why the orphan fight even happened in the first place
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:44:01.000Z
I'm going to read the wiki page after the game is finished but sdjfkl
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:44:06.000Z
SERIOUSLY
pazu
2011-07-06T03:44:10.000Z
like, I thought they didn't want to kill orphan? and they probably could've walked away
shamera
2011-07-06T03:44:13.000Z
yeah, the orphan fight happening in the first place always confused me
pazu
2011-07-06T03:44:14.000Z
the thing doesn't even have legs
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:44:26.000Z
I'm over here going "killing Orphan would destroy cocoon"
shamera
2011-07-06T03:44:31.000Z
but Dysley fusing with Orphan made some semblance of sense to me
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:44:38.000Z
and they're like "LET'S KILL ORPHAN AND SAVE COCOON GUISE"
shamera
2011-07-06T03:44:42.000Z
Fang fighting Vanille was to protect her and keep her from turning Cie'th
shamera
2011-07-06T03:44:50.000Z
YEAH THAT WAS THE PART I NEVER GOT.
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:45:04.000Z
i'm going to tear the wiki pages on this game apart once it's over
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:45:11.000Z
I just don't want to spoil anything
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:46:16.000Z
there's no way around it. I love the game to death, but the story's sense goes to shit when they hit oerba.
shamera
2011-07-06T03:46:43.000Z
same. XDD
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:46:51.000Z
I really love the look of the game and the plot in the beginning
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:47:01.000Z
but
shamera
2011-07-06T03:47:06.000Z
the character development is amazing, the plot is good, but... it's like they created a problem they couldn't figure out the solution to
shamera
2011-07-06T03:47:09.000Z
and BSed the ending. XD;
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:47:13.000Z
between the endless "LET'S MAKE A MIRACLE" speeches and this ending
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:47:25.000Z
I'm like "can I just pretend disc three doesn't happen?"
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:47:47.000Z
it's all really strong and tight, and then just... falls apart the moment they get on the ship to go to pulse
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:47:57.000Z
Agreed. :I
pazu
2011-07-06T03:47:58.000Z
Yeahhhh
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:48:09.000Z
not-so-coincidentally, you'll notice that this is the point where my lightning is take from :|
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:48:14.000Z
*taken
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:48:22.000Z
haha XD
pazu
2011-07-06T03:48:33.000Z
Pulse was cool until you realize they didn't actually accomplish anything there
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:48:40.000Z
now cocoon is turning into jello
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:48:44.000Z
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:49:08.000Z
it almost looks like a blitzball dome
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:49:24.000Z
it's like... they're on the ark, they've had their entire worldview crushed to pieces, then somehow they pull it together, decide togo forth
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:49:44.000Z
......and then there's a timeskip of who knows how long, and they're all completely hopeless again
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:49:45.000Z
WHAT
shamera
2011-07-06T03:49:50.000Z
I'm of the opinion that the brand drives them a little bit nuts.
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:50:17.000Z
they are the most insecure fucking bunch of people ever
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:50:24.000Z
"THERE'S NO HOPE"
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:50:30.000Z
"*SMACK* YES THERE IS"
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:50:32.000Z
"OH, OKAY"
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:50:40.000Z
*FIVE MINUTES LATER*
shamera
2011-07-06T03:50:40.000Z
HE'S RIGHT HERE?
shamera
2011-07-06T03:50:42.000Z
/smacked
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:50:48.000Z
"THERE'S NO HOPE"
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:50:58.000Z
rinse and repeat
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:51:07.000Z
the entire time they're on pulse, everything suddenly becomes stilted and weird
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:51:24.000Z
and it's entirely possible to entirely miss a REALLY IMPORTANT CUTSCENE
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:51:40.000Z
because for some bizarre reason, they decided to make it optional....... (unsure)
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:51:50.000Z
I had to look at a wiki around the pulse section to just figure out what the hell orphan was
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:52:03.000Z
because they bring it up like a "OH, BY THE WAY" thing
pazu
2011-07-06T03:52:21.000Z
I had to refer to the in-game story summary a lot
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:52:28.000Z
well they talk about orphan quite a bit
pazu
2011-07-06T03:52:35.000Z
because there were a lot of scenes that were like "okay that was really pretty but what just happened and why?"
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:52:41.000Z
though the entire party suddenly picks up the idiot ball regarding it
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:53:33.000Z
guys, remember when they were talking about how *only ragnarok* can destroy orphan?
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:53:47.000Z
that's the first time the mention him though, right?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:53:48.000Z
which for some reason isn't actually true, but they couldn't have known that
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:53:49.000Z
orphan that is
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:53:53.000Z
where at?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:54:11.000Z
barthandelus tells them about orphan on board the palamecia
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:54:45.000Z
the first time i remember it is right after you put back together vanille's robot thing
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:54:50.000Z
but i might've just missed it
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:55:17.000Z
/goes to tear up wiki
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:55:43.000Z
nope, that's the whole point of his speech to them when they first meet him |D;;
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:56:44.000Z
...and then cid raines tells them about orphan (and WHY) too
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T03:56:47.000Z
so...
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:56:55.000Z
fff i must've missed it XD; i watched evee play the whole thing but i missed parts
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:57:05.000Z
as in she would reach cutscenes and i didn't realize
katiebunny
2011-07-06T03:57:19.000Z
but regardless that...ending completely lost me
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:00:24.000Z
Final Fantasy XIII Walkthrough [PS3] - Part 91 - Ch. 9
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:01:17.000Z
yeah the ending is really crappy, sorry on its behalf there =/
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:02:29.000Z
I do understand the whole ragnarok/orphan scenario, it just took a look at the wiki to get it the first time >>;
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:02:37.000Z
it's probably because i wasn't playing the game myself
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:03:53.000Z
yeah, I just thought I'd throw that there
eveepuff
2011-07-06T04:03:57.000Z
WELL. BEYOND CONTEMPLATING THE ENDGAME (which was awful) I'm trying to figure out whether or not I should even bother with the end. :|
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:04:02.000Z
I think it's a cool scene
eveepuff
2011-07-06T04:04:06.000Z
With all the quests, that is.
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:04:11.000Z
it is a cool scene :3
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:04:25.000Z
I actually liked the whole dsyley thing at first, it was just by the end he was like...nonstop ranting
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:04:40.000Z
they can be fun :|a
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:04:44.000Z
but then, so were the protagonists by that point.
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:04:54.000Z
if you don't have a chocobo yet, getting one is worth it
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:05:05.000Z
i do like the game regardless of the craziness, though o/
eveepuff
2011-07-06T04:05:12.000Z
...is there any plot after the main one is over?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:05:15.000Z
if you like the characters, there's interesting scenes around that at least
eveepuff
2011-07-06T04:05:15.000Z
Or is it just...quests?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:05:31.000Z
and it sure feels good the first time you smack a giant turtle down
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:06:05.000Z
that said, I'm ~75 hours in and haven't managed all the missions yet
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:06:41.000Z
i think what she's asking is if there's cutscenes at all or is it just missions?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:08:21.000Z
umm... a few of the missions have cutscenes, but they're not... important?
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:08:50.000Z
okay :3
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:09:01.000Z
well, what I'm saying is that no not really, once you finish the game, basically all it does is unlock the last section of the crystarium
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:09:41.000Z
and then you... backtrack to the weird dimension and go back to pulse xD
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:10:40.000Z
i think the ending actually probably had a lot of potential, it just missed out on like...explaining certain details
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:11:11.000Z
like i kind of get it now after reading the wiki
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:11:54.000Z
one hopes the sequel.... um.... does something
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:12:15.000Z
i'm looking forward to it
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:12:24.000Z
though it could be 40 hours of lightning rides odin around fun time and I'd be like (gyay)
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:12:34.000Z
Haha. XD
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:12:43.000Z
I need to watch the trailers for that.
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:12:50.000Z
I've been avoiding them purely because I didn't want to risk spoilers.
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:16:48.000Z
go here 8D
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:17:08.000Z
although I'd say close the first video that comes up, then watch the "announcement trailer" first
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:17:15.000Z
THEN the e3 one
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:18:14.000Z
...i feel horrible but my first thought when i started the trailer was "DAMN, lightning looks awesome in that armor"
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:18:24.000Z
/continues watching
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:20:34.000Z
...second thought: where is snow?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:20:40.000Z
LMAO
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:20:45.000Z
that's everyone's thought
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:21:07.000Z
there was a lot of serah/noel-ish undertones when um
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:21:13.000Z
serah is supposed to be gettin' hitched
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:21:42.000Z
it sounded like i heard his voice at the end? /listens again
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:22:49.000Z
...I can't tell. It might be his bro.
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:23:57.000Z
/quietly obsesses
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:24:37.000Z
the developers have come out and given a half-assed comment about how snow will be there and how he's "not the jealous type"
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:24:58.000Z
...translation: snow wasn't pretty enough, have this guy
shamera
2011-07-06T04:25:04.000Z
..../thinks that's a load of bull 8|
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:25:12.000Z
i liked snow a lot D:
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:25:58.000Z
honestly I'm really thinking he's probably got a redesign and they don't want to show it yet
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:26:06.000Z
along with hope
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:26:09.000Z
Maybe.
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:26:13.000Z
I'm kind of scared to see Hope.
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:26:24.000Z
they *can't* leave hope's design the same
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:26:24.000Z
I'm worried that he'll be like "SUDDENLY, BISHIE"
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:26:29.000Z
lmfao
shamera
2011-07-06T04:28:13.000Z
nooooo, he should just stay little forever. >:
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:28:20.000Z
^ this
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:28:35.000Z
they BETTER keep sazh in there too
shamera
2011-07-06T04:28:43.000Z
I wanna see Dahj 8D
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:28:46.000Z
me too
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:29:09.000Z
lightning looks badass, though
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:29:15.000Z
even if i have no idea what's going on
shamera
2011-07-06T04:29:28.000Z
she does. 8D Although some of that outfit baffles me. =\a
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:29:28.000Z
...though that's pretty much how i felt all along the first game too ID;
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:29:54.000Z
...i try not to think of clothing physics in these games
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:30:01.000Z
after yuna's magic half-skirt i just gave up
shamera
2011-07-06T04:30:53.000Z
But 13's fashions almost made sense. /pouts
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:31:07.000Z
/patpat
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:31:45.000Z
this is um... what happens between the end and the sequel's start
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:33:17.000Z
three paragraphs in:
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:33:29.000Z
" “We may never see them again, but we can make miracles happen.” Hope said. "
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:33:31.000Z
/loses it
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:33:46.000Z
ahahaha
shamera
2011-07-06T04:33:51.000Z
gdjkfs
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:34:23.000Z
I will say
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:34:53.000Z
that the plot hook for XIII-2 really *really* pisses me off
shamera
2011-07-06T04:35:15.000Z
......the plot so far is kind of lacking. =\a
shamera
2011-07-06T04:35:32.000Z
as easy as he is on the eyes, just WHERE did Noel come from?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:35:59.000Z
that's not what I even mean, I'm sure they'll explain that and there will be a plot twist and blah blah blah
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:36:11.000Z
...is it bad that this whole thing of them coming down to pulse reminds me of the end of wall-e?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:36:15.000Z
but lightning just... wanders off? I don't care if she's ~called~ *I don't care*
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:37:02.000Z
her entire world revolves around serah, you can't tell me to just swallow that she wanders away without a word to disappear for *five years*
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:39:46.000Z
especially since it's been revealed recently with mythology stuff that... etro is actually a god-tier fal'Cie
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:40:37.000Z
cocoon's just a thing, it's the people that matter. you're telling me she fights to save her sister and her world, then just... la la la
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:41:09.000Z
okay I'm running around in armor with half a white chocobo's feathers glued on, serving etro
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:41:14.000Z
SOMETHING IS OFF HERE
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:41:47.000Z
/rants on your plurk HELLO
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:42:05.000Z
oh, don't worry, i'm enjoying it XD;
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:42:15.000Z
i just finished reading and...sjfksl
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:42:20.000Z
seriously, lightning, what the hell
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:42:43.000Z
"THE WORLD IS SAFE......WELP. *walks away*"
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:43:31.000Z
..../realizes something, goes to watch the trailer for like the 200th time
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:43:50.000Z
also i know it's a tiny nitpick but
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:44:02.000Z
in the beginning of the game hope is like "BEING A L'CIE IS HELL ON EARTH"
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:44:21.000Z
and i'm just like "psst...you're from cocoon, what is earth"
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:46:21.000Z
*pulse is hell on earth
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:46:31.000Z
oh, my bad
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:46:31.000Z
but idk, it's just sort of... a weird translation there
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:46:41.000Z
i figured it was a localization thing
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:47:04.000Z
i've just been holding it in and felt the need to say something D:
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:47:08.000Z
XD
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:47:20.000Z
what did you realize? :-o
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:47:22.000Z
I'm not sure how else you'd say it and keep the same feel though
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:47:40.000Z
oh, it was moot
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:47:55.000Z
"PULSE IS ICKY (angry)"
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:48:15.000Z
I'd noticed that in the gameplay, noel and serah's ATB bar has a mechanical look on the end of it
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:48:31.000Z
which makes me wonder if they're using AMP tech to do magic or what
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:48:43.000Z
i'm wondering how they're doing magic at all
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:48:44.000Z
I was curious if the gameplay with lightning had it too, and it does
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:48:50.000Z
and why lightning has odin
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:48:57.000Z
i would assume that not being a l'cie would take those powers away?
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:49:02.000Z
because I'm wondering if she's unlucky enough to have been branded again by etro this time xD
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:49:23.000Z
fff they just need to brand everyone in the universe and be done with it
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:49:55.000Z
well, even in the first game there's AMP, which allows people to simulate magic
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:50:07.000Z
that's how the PSICOM people you fight can use it
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:50:22.000Z
that might be what they're using then
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:50:35.000Z
fff i feel stupid, i just haven't delved into the details of this game at all >>;
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:50:42.000Z
but I'm almost certain that I've seen developers refer to the crystarium which really wouldn't make sense unless.... they're l'Cie....
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:50:47.000Z
hahaha no worries
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:51:03.000Z
i really get worried about spoilers so like...my only exposure has been watching evee play
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:51:10.000Z
over the course of like a month or two
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:51:31.000Z
I play lightning in 3 different games and have since september, so... hopefully it's not a surprise that I can spout info
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:51:37.000Z
...i'd imagine they're probably going to handwave some things
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:52:03.000Z
fff i'm the same way with ace attorney stuff XD; i know too much about really silly details
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:52:19.000Z
but i haven't done much research on 13 for...the reasons i mentioned
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:52:30.000Z
yeah.
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:52:49.000Z
i know evee was talking about maybe picking up sazh
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:53:00.000Z
i dunno if i'd play anyone, though D: i'd have to think on it
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:56:35.000Z
saaaazh |D;;
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:56:57.000Z
sazh is a very rare character to see
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:57:09.000Z
yeah. :-o he's one of our favorites
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T04:57:30.000Z
I think the general consensus is that everyone ever loves him, but nobody plays him!
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:59:09.000Z
...and of course the next game evee picks up is tales of vesperia
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:59:16.000Z
and I hear troy baker's voice coming from the tv
katiebunny
2011-07-06T04:59:19.000Z
and i'm like "WTF YOU AGAIN"
✯ ANDUIN ✯
2011-07-06T05:01:29.000Z
ahaha...
eveepuff
2011-07-06T05:07:52.000Z
...katie why are you ranting about ffxiii when I had to suffer through the endless battles :|
katiebunny
2011-07-06T05:08:11.000Z
...I HAVE QUESTIONS
eveepuff
2011-07-06T05:08:13.000Z
I'm seriously considering picking up Sazh if I ever have the time.
eveepuff
2011-07-06T05:08:21.000Z
Roleplaying-wise. :3
katiebunny
2011-07-06T05:08:36.000Z
i'm curious like a cat ;A;
eveepuff
2011-07-06T05:08:56.000Z
................. /rolls you into some cat litter
katiebunny
2011-07-06T05:09:22.000Z
(nottalking)
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