michellegreer is
2008-06-10T18:10:00.000Z
irritated that her designer and coder and not being accessible currently. grrrrr.....
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TooL is
2008-06-11T14:41:21.000Z
always looking for new clients :-)
michellegreer says
2008-06-11T15:42:29.000Z
she is not a fan of drupal :-(
TooL asks
2008-06-11T15:44:53.000Z
what does michellegreer prefer? (Drupal took some getting used to, but I've developed on several different frameworks as well)
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dcousineau says
2008-06-11T15:47:24.000Z
ARRRR!!
michellegreer says
2008-06-11T19:59:55.000Z
she is curious about django
dcousineau says
2008-06-11T20:02:12.000Z
michellegreer you aren't going to find many CMS written for anything but PHP and .NET
dcousineau says
2008-06-11T20:02:27.000Z
if you aren't afraid to get down and dirty and code manually, a lot more options open up
dcousineau says
2008-06-11T20:02:41.000Z
zend framework, cakephp, symfony, codeigniter, django, merb, etc.
michellegreer says
2008-06-11T20:13:13.000Z
this looks like a cms written in python. the client doesn't want to use php, and i don't really blame him www.pylucid.org/
dcousineau says
2008-06-11T20:18:19.000Z
ooph to the don't blame him part.
dcousineau says
2008-06-11T20:18:46.000Z
i'll never understand the rabid php aversion out there *Shrug*
TooL says
2008-06-11T20:28:40.000Z
I've worked with RTSB (Java), Zend, Drupal, CakePHP (PHP) and Django (Python)
TooL says
2008-06-11T20:29:18.000Z
whoops - meant CodeIgniter not CakePHP
TooL says
2008-06-11T20:30:15.000Z
michellegreer should check out The Django Book to learn more.
michellegreer
2008-06-11T22:18:24.000Z
asked her uber smart friend who is a python dev, who recommends RoR for this project. it just doesn't seem that PHP is as secure
michellegreer says
2008-06-11T22:21:56.000Z
it's just a brochure site, but the client's joomla site was hacked, so he is not doling out the PHP love right now
TooL says
2008-06-11T22:51:14.000Z
it's as secure as the developer makes it. Regardless of the language.
TooL says
2008-06-11T22:52:13.000Z
Drupal core has a team devoted solely to secure issues. Not sure the same can be said for Joomla.
michellegreer says
2008-06-12T00:23:02.000Z
drupal is beyond overkill for this project
TooL says
2008-06-12T02:05:01.000Z
yeah that's certainly understandable. Like I said, I've used more than Drupal. My site has more info.
TooL says
2008-06-12T02:05:19.000Z
feel free to drop me a line there if you think there's something i might be able to do to help out.
dcousineau says
2008-06-12T02:06:19.000Z
php isn't insecure, its bad programmers that make a site insecure
dcousineau says
2008-06-12T02:06:34.000Z
i've seen some brilliant hacks on asp, ruby, and python sites
dcousineau says
2008-06-12T02:06:49.000Z
nearly all of them are bad coding practices
dcousineau says
2008-06-12T02:07:09.000Z
most developers escape their SQL but how many protect against CSRF attacks?
dcousineau says
2008-06-12T02:07:42.000Z
such attacks are not inherent to a language itself but of coding practices. no language, or framework, can fix those, its up to the dev
dcousineau says
2008-06-12T02:07:51.000Z
Joomla's a very bad example of the PHP world
TooL says
2008-06-12T02:11:11.000Z
he's never used Joomla, so he can't rightly hate it... but probably would if he had! (s_angry)
dcousineau says
2008-06-12T02:11:34.000Z
tool don't get curious. Stay far away from Joomla
TooL says
2008-06-12T02:14:47.000Z
oh I'm not at all curious... I'm fine with Drupal.
dcousineau says
2008-06-12T02:17:08.000Z
good
TooL says
2008-06-12T02:20:33.000Z
he's putting this one on **mute** ... it's off topic from the original post by michellegreer
michellegreer says
2008-06-12T03:36:58.000Z
by all means. this is the most productive thread i've seen. considering WP simply cause austin has tons of WP people.
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