Annyka says
14 years ago
SL people are all pissed that Chris Pirillo slagged SL as being overrun by porn & gambling
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Gogo ♔ says
14 years ago
i would care but i've never heard of this guy
Other Autumn 🍂
14 years ago
"I rarely hear of anyone logging in there" Uhh....wut? xD
Justice
14 years ago
as for being over run, he doesn't have his facts straight, most Gambling is Banned, and as for porn is that true about the entire internet
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Creamface
14 years ago
it is probably true that 90% of people there are just there for porn and gambling
kesseret
14 years ago
im familiar with him and it was true, partially... like a couple years ago
Marnismellsof says
14 years ago
This is why i think Linden Labs could use a good rebrand to bring in new people.
Justice
14 years ago
LL needs to produce some kind of numbers of mature/adult sims to PG ones.
kesseret
14 years ago
LL tried to rebrand when they started moving mature to Zindra and marketing towards a business like audience. Second Life is heading
kesseret
14 years ago
south mostly because of their customer service... porn and gambling are everywhere- it didn't ruin SL, at least I dont think so.
kesseret
14 years ago
and Chris makes me lol a lot- I like him.
Marnismellsof says
14 years ago
I dont think they picked the good bits to rebrand on tho. If they highlighted half of the great content creation.
Marnismellsof says
14 years ago
ect i think more people would jion
Annyka says
14 years ago
I hate when I get interrupted at work in the middle of a multi-part thought. The first part makes only half a point
Annyka says
14 years ago
to continue where I left off....
Prad
14 years ago
The internet is overrun by porn and gambling.
Annyka says
14 years ago
so he does a follow up where someone takes him on a tour to prove that its more than just porn & gambling Second Life Tour
Prad
14 years ago
Also, I totally want that chair he's sitting on.
Annyka says
14 years ago
And winds up not only with absolutely horrendous performance, but the guide takes him on a most boring tour of the entire internet
kesseret
14 years ago
lolol i am still unsure what is so wrong with porn and gambling, again?! Also, is that a voice morpher?
Prad
14 years ago
So he had the same experience most noobs get. It's not surprising SL gets a bad rap.. I don't blame him for slagging it off.
Annyka says
14 years ago
that's what I'm thinking, Kess! The porn & gambling was a way better review than the actual tour!
kesseret
14 years ago
man I'd do freeplay over at Chilly Charlton's casino and during non freeplay, stick 20L in the machine and sort inventory
kesseret
14 years ago
gambling really was a benefit to SL since everyone I hung out with sorted inventory during freeplay
kesseret
14 years ago
he also had the best machines!
Annyka says
14 years ago
porn & gambling > lag & ancient sims
Annyka says
14 years ago
I'm firmly convinced of that, myself
Other Autumn 🍂
14 years ago
Ugh, why wasn't he taken to places like Chouchou, or Garden of Dreams...places that are really BEAUTIFUL instead of those 2006-textured
Annyka says
14 years ago
alot of people are embarassed about that aspect of SL and want to sweep it under the carpet
Other Autumn 🍂
14 years ago
boring sims
kesseret
14 years ago
well the US should get over their puritanical ways...regarding gambling (and many other things)
Annyka says
14 years ago
LL's been searching high and low for the "killer app" and they've had it all along and got rid of it
Prad
14 years ago
yeah.. banning online gambling in a country which has the world's gambling capital strikes me as a little odd
kesseret
14 years ago
well I think it had to do with the credit card transactions and gambling rather than it being banned perse.
Prad
14 years ago
SL's major problem is that when people get in there, they have no idea what to do and hence, they don't get *it*
Lils says
14 years ago
he does manage to convince me that Second Life sucks. Oh, that face he's pulling at 6:15. (LOL)
kesseret
14 years ago
pradprathivi: yup and there's nothing engaging when they come in.
Prad
14 years ago
They totally screwed up the First Hour Experience in Viewer 2.0.. instead of making it easier for new users, they made it much harder
kesseret
14 years ago
yeah and chris is navigating the camera in the WORST way in that video.
kesseret
14 years ago
camera controls made SL for me- handling them easily was the key to making SL fun
kesseret
14 years ago
ebbiibbe: my alts from 2008 all couldn't tp off orientation island at all. they couldnt get anywhere.
Prad
14 years ago
ebbiibbe: I took a room full of 30 people into SL for the first time a few weeks ago. Nobody was able to work it out.
Annyka says
14 years ago
its not his fault though. You can't blame a user for the lousy first impression SL gives
Prad
14 years ago
when someone like Chris Pirollo is trying to get SL to work, I can't see how a moderate computer user is supposed to have the patience
Prad
14 years ago
It's not really that SL is complicated.. it's more that it's hard to understand what to do there, and it's difficult to get working right.
kesseret
14 years ago
well a lot of things hurt SL. Running off their best volunteer client devs probably was one.
kesseret
14 years ago
when a user introduces another user the SL experience is very different than a new user coming in on their own. Though
kesseret
14 years ago
you are right, one cannot bitch about stability when their systems are below requirements.
#Trin
14 years ago
the people who really know what SL is about are the people who are using it now. We know what it's about.
#Trin
14 years ago
I almost think we should be the ones telling new users what to do, where to go, etc.
kesseret
14 years ago
A lot of things have to change... how much change without losing the original spirit of SL can happen? and I totally miss gambling
kesseret
14 years ago
ebbiibbe: well when I bring people in I walk them around their first time and give them tips.
kesseret
14 years ago
I assumed you meant similar, not babying or handholding but introduction then fly away bird
kesseret
14 years ago
and they do- there's several portals people can go to when they originally log in, some were even resident created... but there was a bug
kesseret
14 years ago
surrounding them...if i am not mistaken.
Prad
14 years ago
A very high proportion of new users registering to Second Life log in once and never return.. I think LL said only around 5-10% stay now
Prad
14 years ago
That's poor retaining figures, and they know it.
#Trin
14 years ago
If I saw that number in my own business the alarm would sound loudly...
#Trin
14 years ago
hell, SL should embrace the vampire culture and market it to all those Twilight fans ;-)
#Trin
14 years ago
oh damn!
Prad
14 years ago
FYI, those adverts still didn't work. Neither did the RL/SL adverts. They had poor uptake, and tended to target people already in SL.
#Trin
14 years ago
they should have said be a vampire and have sex with Edward and Jacob...your wildest dreams can come true!
Prad
14 years ago
Which reminds me.. how does LL fire half its workforce but the Marketing manager keeps her job? That's all kinds of weird.
kesseret
14 years ago
yeah like babbage linden- why lay him off but keep a lame ass marketing manager
Annyka says
14 years ago
SL doesn't need marketers. I don't think anything as freeform and chaotic as SL is can ever be effectively marketed by the home office
Annyka says
14 years ago
any polished marketing push by LL will be inherently false, because a polished controlled experience is exactly what SL is not
Prad
14 years ago
They could use a better PR to deal with the media.. and their own customers. And if there's money left, someone who listens would be awesome
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