me too. put it up on web somewhere so ex-designers like me and grauer can take a look

there are a few posted up on the bulletin board, but hopefully there will be even more

i don't even know if mine is worth presenting, i haven't had time to do anything to it for a while

Can't be worse than this: www.indwes.edu/

that fav icon is killer

if people check out current design trends via edustyle, etc. instead of designing the same old web site via 1995.

that the vast majority of people at the meeting do not

people would understand the difference between design issues and workflow/interface issues

all the plurkers here that submitted designs a thumbs up for above average designs

to shut up

some people made the usability of the navigation even worse

really shutting up now

. i am still waiting to see saltybeagle and almostcool designs.

almostcool's design

saltybeagle's design

smeranda's design

daugustine's design

first is almostcool's, second is saltybeagle's, third is smeranda's, fourth is min

*mine

ah thanks. i saw those from the forum but they arent under their names.

so frustrated after that meeting. Not because of designs, but because of other things.

oooh juicy gossips! do tell do tell.

saltybeagle: was worried you were going to get up and start laying the smack down

so frustrating that people that know nothing about the web, come in and give the impression that they know what they're talking about.

alvin some people presented on user-driven decisions... during our design meeting.

... gathering data from end users (click tracking for a task list). Which I think is good, but they worded the questions poorly, and

none of their results had anything to do with design.

ugh, active observation(interview, survery, polling) is less accurate than passive observation (analytic data, heatmap, eye tracking)

they presented on this data

hmm interesting. but you can actually cross that data with analytic data (esp. on the 'path' part). Of all the people who land on the

homepage, how many go toA, B or C. i'm not sure what analytic is UNL using but in google analytic, it looks like this

alvinwoon.com/dev/screen...

I think there's definitely a place for this research, but, it is of no relevance to the UNL template design, and everything to do with...

organization of content, and wording of the tasks for targeted goals and understand.

*understanding

interesting data on the UNL map. wish we had this data right after we launched it .

just frustrating to have someone hijack a meeting for their own agenda, and distract everyone from the point of the meeting

i can understand that.

alvin the map one is something I completely object to. It doesn't take a friggin' click tracking observation session to find out...

that building nicknames aren't present!

When you tell someone to find within the list of buildings ______ (the unofficial name I call that building), of course they won't find it

was the goal of the task to see if users can find the map, and find a building? Or to find out if nicknames for buildings are present.

the official building name is NEBRASKA UNION, not City Campus Union. Animal Science Complex, not Animal Science Building.

I also think it's retarded the situations they presented, usually when I tell someone to meet me somewhere I tell them where it is

or link them to a map

ah true. when i tried to go through the steps, it is actually quite confusing because i just copy and paste the bldg names from the tasklist

99% of users that will use that map are current students with a building code, and some knowledge of the UNL campus arrangement (city/east)

if they don't know where it is

and like you said, it returned 0 result.

the other 1% are 15-22 year olds doing some dumb survey / experiment to see if they can find places that don't exist

... and it doesn't take a friggin research instrument to reach the conclusion they did. Everyone found the map.

when i was there, we didnt have such data. now if they can refine the process and consult with you guys on the methods, i really think it

will be helpful, especially when combined with analytic data. if they can provide this report every couple months, it's really great.

just dont invite them to the web meetings

daugustine - just read that re: the other 1% lol

that sucks

17 people does not a good usability test make

I wanted to say, "Uh, I'd like to hear from some of the designers that actually prepared something for this meeting."

considering they can't even use logical mark up

I had a whole Keynote presentation ready to go... but we had to spend the whole time discussing irrelevant data to our task at hand.

I would have liked to have seen that.

i guess they will not be invited back to speak huh .

They'll keep coming...

based on their reading/reference list and their research methodology, its obvious they are a big proponent in user centred design (UCD).

here are some ammo for future discussion -> www.ixda.org/discuss.php...

also www.ixda.org/search.php?...

heh, the RH Jr. comment is nice alvin, thanks.

and i suggest you guys set up a book-sharing treaty with their department .every single books in this list (usability.unl.edu/web/us...

has been in my amazon wishlist at some point.

I have quite a few of the books as well.

hmmm, now there is a login box for the usability site... what are they trying to hide?

eh, I think it's the parenthesis on the end of alvin's link

oh wait, that is for the CMS...

well, they registered the domain name, so they must be experts

by that logic, I"m an expert

/me will go register allaroundgenius.unl.edu

and then it must be true!

also a good argument is that they listed 2 Don Normans' books there but Don himself has been asking designers to move away from UCD.

www.jnd.org/dn.mss/human...

excellent resources alvin

i just gave a workshop in london on this topic.

mentor alvin!

pff. We taught him everything he knows.