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春天讀書會/愚人節亂亂毒書會【延期公告】i383.photobucket.com/alb...
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【事因】：本讀書會四位當然會員中，因為：
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1.johnny事業蓬勃訂單接不完，閱讀時間有限... 
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2.L'Etranger以為“監獄的誕生”是一本小說...
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3.Brie與seuil在會期期間，將有三次離家出走 (出國）的計畫... 
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因此春天讀書會的進度將有所變更；也就是亂亂毒書會
今後將採不定期方式，繼續後六章的閱讀與討論。
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（註：Brie與seuil不是相約離家出走，而是向左向右，各走各的康莊大道...請各位親朋好友不要想入非非，以為亂亂毒書會的會長與打雜兩個要一起出國私奔!! 
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（再註：一個月來的讀書過程，昨天晚上會長與打雜的，在後台（後援會）喝酒慶祝。因為這本書實在太好看了，雖然不是很容易吸收，可是兩人皆深感收穫良多！故喝啤酒放鞭炮互道恭喜，並彼此祝福再接再厲。 
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這首歌叫向左向右嗎？它是一首奪人熱淚卻好玩可愛的歌，是在Liz與Apaul家聽到的...放在這裡大家一起聽，並當作亂亂毒書會後會有期的片尾曲。
L'Étranger.
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L'Étranger.
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![孫燕姿.-.[遇見].KTV](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h9EDLymiOwo/2.jpg){kind=small}
L'Étranger.
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seuil: 應該算吧 
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毒書會有點小插曲 ... 
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不像會長的會長有許多作業未如期完成, 所以口供要順延一個禮拜 ...
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但是補個, 陰錯陽差, 但與主題相關 的報導, 當做墊檔 ... 
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周日午后, 在洄瀾遇到位行公益之士 ... 
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" 你(妳)能進來這兒是你(妳)的福氣 ~ " 
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" 很多人在外頭犯錯, 一直沒有機會改過 ~ " 
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擔任教養院輔導志工的吳先生如是說著, 他最常對被輔導人說的第一句話 ...
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" 輔導對象是 十八歲以下的犯罪青少年, 年紀最小的記錄是八歲 ... " 
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" 要報持同理心, 而且要如同愛自己小孩般地 愛他(她) ~ " 
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有著基督教信仰的吳先生如是強調 對象未成年 !
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" 所謂管教, 是指小孩只能教, 即使要處罰, 也絕對不能打罵 ~ " 
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" 他(她)可能會不聽話, 甚至會不理你 ~ 那是因為你不會教, 你的方式需要修正 ... " 
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他的話讓, 從小受到斯巴達/武士道教育長大的偶, 想到 螺絲釘 的愛心教育 ~~
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" 一般正職輔導官的壓力比較大, 有些棘手案例會如同例行公事地進行, 被輔導人得不到幫助 ... " 
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" 因為他們不願因管教不當, 而被撤職開除 ... " 
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吳先生提醒偶棉台灣公務員的特色 ~~!
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...
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" 而我們則是另外提供協助的角色, 讓被輔導人了解我們會一直陪伴他(她) ! " 
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" 幫助他(她)理解何處出了差錯 ! 讓他(她)自己能慢慢走向正軌 ! " 
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吳先生娓娓訴說他的志業 ...
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" 當然, 還是有反覆進來好幾回的案例, 這意味著問題還沒有解決 ... " 
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" 我們還是得繼續陪伴他(她), 愛他(她), 直到他(她)超過十八歲 ~~ "
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這不是體制出了問題, 而且體制是如此設計, 吳先生回應偶的疑惑 ~
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" 至於問題如何解決, 還是得有堅定信仰的指引 ~ "
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" 這不是光靠個人理念思考即可解決, 這樣方向會變來變來去而徒然 ... " 
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吳先生似乎感受到偶有更多的疑問或好奇 ...
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" 法務部長當然要執行死刑案 ~ 這是法治 ! " 
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" 至於像吳建和案, 這類特殊案件就非我們能評論 ... 主張廢死的人, 他們有他們自己的舞台 ! " 
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吳先生回答偶的離題, 卻又閃避偶的陷阱 ... 
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" 這類問題跟政治無關, 我不是藍也不是綠的 ... " 
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" 我們只會好好做我們會做好的事 ... " 
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他應該被偶和老貓之前的深綠對話嚇壞了 ~~!
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(下次要注意 ... ...) 
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- - -
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Keep on busy ~~
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johnnyjiang: 終於我們四個人都到齊了！哇！（放鞭炮！）
終於我們四個人都到齊了！哇！（放鞭炮！）
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(dinner hour ~)
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感謝辛苦奉献演出! 偶會繼續作不定期無理頭離題插話的旁聽生... 
...還是無力舉起玻璃杯
...還是無力舉起玻璃杯
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你們說得好好看啊!!可以是舉起不管是啤酒還是紅酒的杯子,用力乾杯的旁聽生嗎
什是大愛?
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有讀書心得一定要貼出來喔!
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各位好朋友：這裡是讀書討論會兼泡茶磕瓜子喝啤酒輕鬆閒聊的地方，不是講堂啊！所以你們不是旁聽生是榮譽會員。歡迎時常來打氣加油，讓我們一起把書讀完....
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加油~ 
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BrieCheng: 我讀你與吳先生的談話記，腦中迴旋的是Foucault的鷹眼，對教養院所謂愛的教育，必然的不信任。突顯司法審判弊端的蘇建和案，對吳先生竟然是特殊案例也是有趣的現象。
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你我深綠台獨份子要更大聲對話，應該不用怕嚇壞對方，也許有機會感動對方啊！哈！
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"你我深綠.... " 呵~ 贊成
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... ...
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針對廢死的議題, 其實吳先生被偶逼得蠻緊的 ~ 要不是聚會主講者出現, 搞不好他會翻桌 ~~
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吳先生從死刑犯的判決率切入 他語重心長地宣告:
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" 在台灣, 要被判死刑是 非常非常地 不容易的 ~ "
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" 即使仍續有死刑的判決出現, 但那是意味著法官無可奈何 ... "
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" 為什麼吳建和案的調查過程的明顯暇疵, 不能終止原先判決的過程 ? " 
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" 歷任法官都只是拷貝上任判決內容, 維持原判, 難道不知程序正義的真正意義 ? "
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吳先生有點窘迫地沉默了許久 ... 才草草交代法務部長的職責, 及推走廢死的議題 ~
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MF 從司法權力行使的關注著手 也意味著在司法制度裡 尋找權力行使的灰色地帶
也意味著在司法制度裡 尋找權力行使的灰色地帶
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這個邊邊角角正是司法權力不受節制的地方 !
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廢死聯盟 也許該試一下 MF 的思考 ... ...
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... ...
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偶會繼續讀下去的 ~ 大家一起努力 ~ 
大家一起努力 ~
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Fear to write ? No, I've got courage to think, then to write, then to put into action ~
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... ... "蘇建和案"
懂了！一起讀完書吧！
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(I need time to think over and over again ~~!)
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Not bad ~ MF gave me some clue to face the violence of this system ... Not anymore to escape ~
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BrieCheng: Hello how are you ? I've been absent for a long time. Thank you for your support to our study of MF book.
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(Floor 101 ~)
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Foucault's works are very interesting to read but it takes some time, and a second, a third reading can make change the perspective
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In other words it's not like a bestseller novel (in French "roman de gare")
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Yves30: 
Crazy that you thank Brie to support the study??? Brie is our dear Chairman, right?
Crazy that you thank Brie to support the study??? Brie is our dear Chairman, right?
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and any analysis about this book is today's analysis 
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seuil: Yes and excuse me, Brie is the chairman. But Seuil is snail in reading and needs support, isn't it ?
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Yves30: Surely, thanks for your support. Yesterday I did a typo. Donc je suis obligée de te remercier une fois encore.
Surely, thanks for your support. Yesterday I did a typo. Donc je suis obligée de te remercier une fois encore.
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"其實在監獄之外有更多犯罪者 ..."
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"有的甚至從未被發現 ~~ "
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那時, 吳先生看著我, 語重心長地低聲嘆氣 ...
語重心長地低聲嘆氣 ...
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(我 !? 我不是被體制宰制了嗎 ? 難道這不就是對我的懲罰 ?)
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(還是放逐 ? ... ...) 
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Adam Cast Forth --- Jorge Luis Borges
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Was there a Garden or was the Garden a dream?
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Amid the fleeting light, I have slowed myself and queried,
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Almost for consolation, if the bygone period
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Over which this Adam, wretched now, once reigned supreme,
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Might not have been just a magical illusion
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Of that God I dreamed. Already it's imprecise
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In my memory, the clear Paradise,
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But I know it exists, in flower and profusion,
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Although not for me. My punishment for life
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Is the stubborn earth with the incestuous strife
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Of Cains and Abels and their brood; I await no pardon.
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.. ..
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Yet, it's much to have loved, to have known true joy,
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To have had -- if only for just one day --
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The experience of touching the living Garden.
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- - -
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(偶還在第五節的後段奮鬥 ... MF 很難馴服 ...)
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(So, please wait ... ...)
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... ...
恆愛台
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我寫的文章~都沒有被讀書會列入討論? 
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plusplusplus: 這兩天，我一定一定一定會去臺灣小站貼一篇文章。