Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
[dwarfposting continues] So I did some cursory reading up on Dorflore in the LOTR wiki, just cuz
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Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
First of all, I think it's really funny that Aule made dwarves because he was super excited about having mortals to teach his shit to even though everyone had agreed that elves were going to be first
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
He just couldn't wait
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
But he made them live underground because he wanted to keep them a secret
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Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Then the other Vala found out and he had to put them to sleep until the elves showed up
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Also they were like "You have to destroy the Dwarves because we ALL AGREED the first race would be elves"
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
And he was just like "aw man" and went down there to crush them all with hammers
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
before Iluvatar had mercy and let him just put them into sleep mode
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
SECOND and much stupider thought
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Canon lore is, apparently, that dwarf women stay at home because they are much rarer than dwarf men, at about a 1:2 ratio
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
(though they still have beards and are super strong and badass fighters and have all the other dwarf traits)
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
That's lame
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Here's my take
moontouched
6 days ago
i feel like the more sensible reason people think dwarf women are rarer than dwarf men
moontouched
6 days ago
is because nobody bothers to tell dwarf women apart from dwarf men
Echo
6 days ago
Yeah, agreed.
moontouched
6 days ago
they just go beard? well must be a man
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
The first humans who met dwarves were learning about them
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
but there was a translation error
moontouched
6 days ago
and the dwarf women are like "rude"
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Human: "So where are all your women?"
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Dwarves: "Well, the dwarves that raise the children"
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Dwarves: "Ah, 'woman' is the human word for kindergarten teacher"
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Dwarves: "Obviously they're all staying in the mountain halls with the children"
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
"They don't go on expeditions to the surface"
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Humans: /write all this down
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
I fucked that up
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
H: "So where are all your women?"
D: "What is a woman?"
H: "Well, the dwarves that raise the children."
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
Point is I like the idea better that the dwarves just misunderstood because they don't have any social convention where one biological sex tends to be saddled with childcare
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
https://images.plurk.com/5ezs35PQPxHke3K1jPueLf.jpg Anywhere here is Aulë, Ainu of crafting and substances, super bummed out about having to kill all his creations
big woop
6 days ago
I like that he's depicted wearing jeans
BERSERKER
6 days ago
Denim is the most divine of crafting substances, the closest mortals come to godlihood
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
If any of the ainu wore jeans
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
It stands to reason the patron of craftsmen would be it
Gabiluzbad
6 days ago
he probably also has a flannel shirt somewhere
Echo
6 days ago
The vibe I get is that despite living in a roughly medieval-to-Renaissance-at-most setting Aule is, somehow, a member of a steelworkers union.
חֲנֶףְכָּה
6 days ago @Edit 6 days ago
tbf, if the part of your species that can bear young is rarer than the part that can give out the genetic material, it makes a bit of sense to keep them a bit safer from a survival standpoint(because if you don't have half of the equation, you're boned). BUT also yeah how do you tell??? EVERYTHING IS BEARDS
big woop
6 days ago
Also like, if you are focusing on a population of dwarves that are either in exile as a group or a functioning society within their stronghold there's no reason to assume the women should be hidden away?
big woop
6 days ago
like the "dwarf women are kept safe from outside threats" thing only applies when the only dwarves you're dealing with are adventurers or diplomats in non-dwarf lands who have a secure homeland to retreat to.
big woop
6 days ago
...which is to say, I think there's a strong case to be made for casting three or four of Thorin's company as women and giving them the same elaborate beards as the rest. And then just never addressing it.
Lightning Bolt
6 days ago
I've seen a variant on the "misdefiniton of woman" bit where dwarves assume that "woman" means "someone who is currently pregnant"
Lightning Bolt
6 days ago
and of course pregnant dwarves stay home to rest
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