No COB is not a sex game. its sex friendly, but thats is wholly optional.

I do not appreciate people spreading misinformation without any solid basis.

There is so much gen content to interact with in this game.

Making weird assertions can damage interest in a game and that really sucks.

... it's a monster transformation slice of life game. I mean. where did anyone even GET that idea...?

I have no idea.

Sorry you had to deal with that, owen

/gestures vaguely at her incredibly touch-phobic character. real sex0game material, that

well nobody on my timeline would be calling it that, at least /patpats

Thats okay. I just want to set the record straight.

I just do not like being characterized as some kind of lying predatory creep trying to secretly trap people into stuff. Especially when I have had no interaction and there is no evidence whatsoever to that point.

What the hell?! Who is even saying that? If I thought this about your game, I'd NOT BE PLAYING GAIA there. c_c

I dont know the person, it just got back around to me.

Augh, sorry.

Thats all right. I'm just disappointed that people could be that careless.

The only thing I could possibly think of to lean into that narrative and I may be TOTALLY WRONG but someone got crossed wires that because Amani was a 'sex game' (if I remember you guys' talking about its premise rightly) that CoB was also somehow that.

Which still doesn't make the assumption right just... yeah. headscratcher.

(And if I'm totally wrong about what Amani was please correct me, I just thought that's what I heard about the premise once XD; )

that is the only thread of any sense there but the way I understand it was presented was that we were "hiding" that it was really a sex game.

You are correct! Amani was a smut gamebox moderated by me (and converting to just a sandbox now) and, yes, a lot of players came from that CRAU but that in no way affects the overall intention of CoB being a gen game imo

tentamenace: Thanks for confirming! And of course it doesn't. How does one hide it's a sex game anyway? c_c

Is this a thing people have done before?

It's 18+ because we allow people to explore those topics, but actually more because of the body horror elements baked in and, like, touching on darker themes than anything to do with smut so yeah it's... a weird assumption to make

If I'm running a smut game, I will be entirely upfront about it and was. so it also upset me the idea that we were "hiding" this from people

I never got sex game vibes regardless if I had I wouldn't be here XD

it's a good lil game

What cacopheny said.

I came for the dragon transformations!

'xactly

cacopheny: thank you Im glad youre comfy here!

Hopefully the right narrative gets out tho.

yeah I genuinely wanted to make a game out of my D&D homebrew world, I love dragons, I love drawing dragons, I love seeing what characters look like as dragons. I wanted to make a game that would encourage people to be creative with what their characters might be like.

I want epic fights, dungeon crawls, funny quests

Gaia just wants her soup!

...and you know. dungeon crawls maybe.

maruah: GAIA GONNA GET HER SOUP! BYLETH PROMISED!!!

she will RELUCTANTLY go on funny quests.

SHE IS IN LINE AS WE SPEAK

SAD DRAGON GIRL IN THE SNOW. SOUPLESS

SOUPLESS!!!!

SOUP!!!

Also, yeah, dungeon crawling and quests...

Yeah, like...the fact that a number of the characters got imported from a game that was OPEN about being a sex game, and the players are open about it having been a sex game, and the mods are open about it having been a sex game, somehow means that this game advertised as 18+ gen is ALSO a sex game BUT THEY'RE PRETENDING IT ISN'T...

Like. Bruh. Why. Everyone was plenty cool with the sex game when it was advertising itself as a sex game, why would anyone feel the need to ~sneak one under the radar~ or whatever

It just happens to be a different game run by the same mods and advertised to, unsurprisingly, some of the same people they know/had played with previously, and a certain percentage of the sex game players were like "hey yeah I'm done for gen stuff too"

There are some REALLY rancid vibes there that kinda imply that if you've ever run or played in a sex game, you must ALWAYS and ONLY be into gooner shit you depraved freak

As opposed to...idk, players and mods being capable of liking both smut and gen stuff???

yeah Im not pleased with the implications. Im not going to put TOO much on it because I dont want to keep the cycle of uncharitable assumptions going

I'm just especially grumpy since they singled out the FF cast in particular for reasons unknown

But I am not impressed with this kind of behavior from someone I literally have had no beef with whatsoever and dont even know.

Who would be, really

From what I heard of the plurk - thankfully they're not on my timeline, and they sure wouldn't have remained there if they were - they were kind of grudgingly talked around into reconsidering their shitty kneejerk biases, but god

Way to tell me right off the bat that I don't care what you think and that you have to be actively coaxed into being reasonable about shit you don't know anything about

I prefer to associate with people who are reasonable by default, actually,

Im glad there were people there to set the record straight.

Me too, but it would be so nice if people didn't talk out of their ass in the first place

Same for me, really, since the last thing I want - as someone where people hold grudges and look for reasons to validate disliking me still - is anyone thinking I'm trying to hide anything or not be honest as a moderator about my intentions with a game.

yeah its just like. "what the hell did I even do to you"

Yeah, and like...literally, y'all ran a sex game that openly advertised itself as a sex game and it was perfectly successful as exactly that! No one needs to hide the fact a game is a sex game to get people to play in it, LEAST OF ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE IT BEFORE WITHOUT HAVING TO HIDE ANYTHING AND DID JUST FINE

Even from a coldly logical standpoint, the math ain't mathing

It really does just read as someone with an axe to grind about sex games and the people who play in them, to the point where they will assume gen games that have people who were in a sex game before must be secret sex shit

Like, holy shit, who hurt you

Yeah again Im just. Its hurtful you know?

Yeah, and I'm so sorry people are being stupid about the game, Owen

I dont need someone coming in trying to spread misinfo that could turn people off the game I made and for what reason???

Like, it's probably gonna happen with any game, there's gonna be someone being stupid about things all the time, but it being inevitable doesn't make it any better or more pleasant

And certainly not more fair

At least the good news is that the plurk only mentioned CoB within the plurk itself, iirc, which means the only people who'd see the name in context of the dumbass accusations would be people who read the body of the plurk

And said body of the plurk includes OP getting schooled and changing their tune

Well thank goodness for that.

So hopefully anyone who sees the lies to begin with will also, inherently, see the truth

Which is a whole lot of people actually IN the game showing up to go "uh, what,"

(I know of at least four players who spoke up, and that's just the ones I know about, and I didn't even read the plurk)

(I was just following James' baffled breakdown of it on Disco)

So long as the record is set straight, then thats what matters

I have no interest in reading the plurk because it'd just make me angrier than I already am about it, which is kinda silly since apparently it resolved itself

So getting even madder about it retroactively seems kinda pointless

Yeah Im not going to pursue it or anything like that its nearly xmas and I simply do not have the time or energy for it

But yeah, as far as I know the only people who could see CoB was getting talked about at all would be right there to see people calling the take out as baffling at best

Ahh thats a relief

So here's hoping it'll have no effect on interest in CoB whatsoever

fingers crossed. I mean not that I want anyone like that in my game at all.

(Hell, maybe people hearing players talk about it positively might drum up interest)

but on a wider scale.

LOL

(Though I'm not usually one of those 'any publicity is good publicity' people, this actually seems like a situation where it could theoretically apply)

WHEEZING...yeah...

maybe more people would buy into a "secret dragon sex cult" than a general D&D inspired adventure game...

Like, I heard OP might've like...expressed a mild interest after people set them straight, and I'm just like "...bruh, after you shit-talked the game and even a specific cast in the game???? I am not so sure that's gonna go so hot for you"

There was a lot that was baffling about that plurk

yeah I dont know why you would think that would get you into an invite only game after doing that but shrugs.

I don't blame James for boggling at it

whatever their proclivities are, thats their business.

...HOLY SHIT I FORGOT COB IS INVITE-ONLY, THAT MAKES THIS ALL SO MUCH DUMBER

LMAO

Yeah let's leave this secret sex game candy trail to this PASSCODED GATE

lies on my back and stares into the sun until it burns out my sinful eyes

How are people this stupid

James' breakdown:

Yeah I was at work all day or I might've been following things a little closer, but James' breakdown was a wild little play-by-play

Yeah idk. I don't think the person is stupid. Just people just need to think more carefully about what they say and consider their own biases

trilies: djklfjskasd

either way I dont think theyre horrible or stupid or anything like that.

Yeah, like...it's fine if you don't like sex games, but don't let sour grapes about people having fun RPing sex and/or being in sex games make you invent some tricked-into-smut-games conspiracy that frankly doesn't need to exist

But they made an irresponsible choice.

Sex games don't struggle to find success, my guy, they don't need to trick players in

I'll go so far as to say I don't think the person is horrible and stupid or anything, but their unexamined personal biases sure led them to act as though they were!!

Which is why you examine them, so you don't make a jackass out of yourself in public

Fortunately I am one of the gross FF cast they would've never wanted to interact with anyway apparently, so I'm sure they don't care what I think

yeah thats very just. confusing and insulting given that I dont think they know any of us personally

t speculation will only upset further

("Oh no," I say, deeply wounded, turning a page in my No Fucks Monthly magazine,)

shrugs

I dont blame people for being upset though

Mostly I'm just upset for all the friends (including and especially you! Who put so much love and care into this game!) who have been unfairly maligned

I very clearly wouldn't have wanted to play with this person regardless, so what they think of me personally or anything I do is totally immaterial, but you know how I get upset when people treat my friends badly

Person: talks shit about me

Me: lol. lmao, even

Person: talks shit about my friends

Me: what did you say to me you little shit

I appreciate it! and yeah I certainly cant blame anyone for being upset. Its... strange to be so rude about people you dont know.

shrugs again

At least nothing of value was lost

People who stir shit like that rarely work out well in games

No, that kind of attitude and behavior wouldnt be welcome in the game.

Anyway I personally would be happy to send you some holiday Taco Bell as an apology from the universe for the nonsense

So if y'all don't have a planned dinner tomorrow, lmk

Haha thanks Callie, I appreciate it. No need for all that though.

meanwhile, i just promise smut

It's up to you! Just know that the offer is on the table

This is just kind of a weird like ???????-

JAMES LOL

Sometimes you gotta baja blast the universe back into balance

hdksfjksa

Me as based Thanos

Thanos as a gamer

legit I want that shirt that says "our father who art in heaven, baja be thy blast"

Again, if I wasn't dead sure someone had already gotten that for you, I would be putting in my Paypal info right now

HAHAHA

How could anyone who knows you miss that opportunity

yeah thats fair tbh LOL

laughing at the very idea of Avan in a sex game, tbh

He would simply perish

hahaha poor fella