and this is just a personal preference in the end, but I really do feel her EC outfit is better

like, let's not pretend - swimsuit/summer stuff is always going to be for putting girl characters in fanservice things, that's the way of it, and I understand. I judge based on fair metrics in that regard

yeah, like...girlygirl might be her personality, but it's not her aesthetic

And it's not like the swimsuit isn't cute or anything! in theory, I like it

I hate the Rebirth swimsuit with a passion, personally

and in theory, I think Tifa could make it work. but it doesn't, and do- lakdfjal hi yinza, my resident ff7 expert who i trust with my life

something about the cool neutral-ish colors and frills clash with her

yes the lack of colors and the frills

it does not feel like anything Tifa would ever wear

ANYWAY i think part of the problem is the headwear, too. something about that little air accessory does not mesh for me?

it just feels like the developers wanted to put her in something sexy, but not like in a threatening way so you make it skimpy but frilly.

like it doesn't quite fit the outfit either i think

I don't love the EC look but it has some more personality to it.

MEANWHILE, I'M HERE FOR TRUCKER HAT SUPREMACY

the hat is both cute and practical

yeah, like - that's why I prefer the EC outfit, because I do think that there are other fun Sexy (tm) summer outfits you can choose outside of bikinis!

(or things you are trying to make a bikini, but also not a bikini,)

I'm sure the EC suit will be modded into the game as an alternate option the second the PC version drops (all the EC outfits have already been modded into the first game)

I like her other Rebirth beachwear option but it's also like... not actually swimwear lol

and I just think that, like.... it's still Blatant fanservice, but there is something to be said for makeshift crop top that's fun

also i did initially think that her jeans were shorts, which I ALSO think are underrated with sexy beach outfits (please stop we don't always need bikinis!!!!), and they aren't, but I guess that makes them fit a little more with the bikini thing

yeah. it also manages not to show any cleavage! and squeenix if you are not going to render her scar then I'm just going to be mad any time you have Tifa show cleavage

anyway the cap is especially fun because when you have her use her special moves in EC, often she'll tilt her head down just a bit

and so the hat hides half her face and I'm sorry but I just think it looks Fuckin Cool

and that will always be 200x more attractive to me then them tripping over the bikini thing, and I am not sorry

EC also has this one

I can imagine. Tifa's confident smirk about-to-murder-you half-hidden by her cap

lmao yeah I saw that one when co-oping after being absent a year and was like "ah yes, I see they're still going for the fanservice hard"

it's just Shiva cosplay, really

still less attractive than the cap, I will fight men over this

james have you seen this one also because similar vibe to her trucker cap outfit and I am a sucker for pinstripe

I like the second one, it's a cute look and seems like something she might do with encouragement from Aerith

POINTS!!!!

SHORTS!!!!!!

shorts!!

also they really wanted to keep the hair accessory huh lmo

yeah I don't love the hair accessory but I can believe that one was Aeris's doing

yeah, aerith needs matchies

I do like her hair up like that

yeah, the hair up like that is nice! just that on its own would have been best

aerith in glinda voice: pink goes good with black and white

anyway i am now currently trying to see if i can get a screenshot of tifa with the hat down because i need people to see my vision, i jut have to remember to look at the screen and pay attention

I like frills and cute things but like... with some characters, it just plain doesn't fit.

meanwhile, it works for cloud, but anyway -

:v

I can see cute for Tifa but like... more practical and kind of sporty cute

character designers stop trying to make everyone have a cute aesthetic.

^^^

for me, it's the frills and ruffles that just don't work for Tifa. that's more Aerith's gig

even for Aeris, they keep making it like her entire gig and she... didn't wear any frills originally. that was not her thing.

she had a pencil skirt and a jean jacket.

slinky red dress

if you want swimsuits, you can give the characters A WHOLE LOT more than cute or sexy.

that just reminds me of your pencil skirt agenda pic lmao

that's why I drew it

elegant, sporty, practical, modest, etc, etc.

I KNOW LMAO this is why you're my ff7 expert i trust with my life

I'm so tired of them constantly giving Aeris frilly skirts and nothing else

she strikes me as more eclectic in her tastes

I used to play her a million years ago

right! and sometimes she'd wear the super sexy outfits they keep putting on Tifa because Aeris would enjoy shocking people with them

tries to think..... iirc the beach outfit for Aerith in EC isn't exactly frilly, but it does have like a white lace lil vest-jacket thing?

does that count yinza

oh yeah, definitely

I seem to recall liking that one okay but it's not exactly a wide deviation from frilly

yeah true, that's what made me ask for clarification lmao

EC has some interesting Aerith outfits too...that black leather one that's reminiscent of Genesis is so funny

"not frills buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut"

and kinda hot

THE GENESIS OUTFIT IS THE BEST LMAO

once again there's nothing wrong with frills, it's just... there are more swimsuits out there that aren't cute or dental floss.

Let Aerith Wear Leather

also pants

I think every FF lady should be allowed to wear pants at least once

I think Aeris would look really cute in some trousers that have that conspicuous mending stuff? just flowers embroidered over to patch holes

congrats on your pants, elena

they got it with Elena honestly

anyway,

agaheri that's definitely not shorts but yes the cap is strong and also the yellow gloves!!

this is on dolphin kick, but she gets an even more cool close up with one of her initial attacks, i just, didn't have that equipped,

LMAO YEAH, IT WAS ONLY WITH THIS ATTACK THAT I REALIZED THEY WEREN'T SHORTS BECAUSE OF. YEAH.

whoops!

i think my heart just really wanted them to be shorts lmao

they should be shorts

she'd rock some bicycle shorts

I, for one, love fanservice. That said, THERE IS MORE FANSERVICE THAN BIKINIS. And yes, Tifa's Rebirth swimwear is just... it looks WRONG on Tifa.

The hat and jeans skirt looks so much better.

grips J's hand in understanding....

a variety of fanservice leads to a healthier ecosystem

also, cool caps,

Leans into the mic.

Real close.

A full ass pinstripe suit is fanservice.

You do not need to show an overabundance of skin to be fanservice. SOMETIMES it helps. But looking good is the number 1 criteria to being fanservice.

If anything, the bikini is fan disservice. It doesn't look good, she doesn't look happy wearing it, it just... GAH. No!

attraction takes many forms

more women should wear cool full coverage armor because that is also fanservice and doing anything less is bigotry final fantasy 15 (but the long coat in a dlc made up for it, so i will accept your apology)

puts these down before i forget again