Teds and forcefem (negative take is ok!)

crabgirl: forcefem ON Teds? Hmmm. Teddy has an instinctive ‘agh what’ but then there’s a secondary ‘actually wait...’ -- the same way I have corsets/heels on there because the idea of it being a kink or a costume sort of reinforces the understanding that she’s not already a woman? Which IS appealing. (...)

Teddy’s not real into humiliation and the implications of it in a humiliating way are different from the dynamic of it with cis guys, it’s kind of ‘huhhhh the LAYERS’

But I CAN see Teds enjoying aspects applied in a way that allows him to get the stack of ‘following orders well’ ‘your AGAB is irrelevant’ and ‘it’s okay to play with and like girly stuff’

The secondary implication here is what i really enjoy, which is to say, because you’re the one asking I have to imagine it’s Kizzy force-femming Teddy and that’s, so many extra layers of amazing it’s like a damn baklava

Like. I mean I love domme-y Kizuna anyway bc a) she’s so formal and shy and softly femme, she has so little choice in her canon and it’s just like: YES. Especially bc of the particular fairytale but also ... everything else, her getting some control is VERY nice b) you never get to see dominant characters in wheelchairs! C) ....ok I’m fully rambling

Anyway I’m falling asleep and should be! But I think KIZZY doing it would probably tip the scales to a very strong maybe if not yes.

And someday I will not work for 13 hours like I did today remember to tag you back and/or hit up a meme or something 😅

I was here thinking it could be anything such as Teddy forcefemming somebody else but man I gotta say that the aspect of Kizuna a wheelchair user physically manipulating them to wear stuff is very sexy and fun

Because she is one of the surprisingly large contingent of spinal cord injury survivors who was a gym rat before and after that

I was legit just here last night taking AFAB/AFAB sex scenes with someone and I was here like well I love what I did in this thread here

So I'm just here appreciating. What happens happens

I did a random generator and got angry sex, cock worship, and partner swapping.

crabgirl: Haha nice! And yeah exactly, I think that does add a fun and sexy aspect that also flips stereotypes. Teddy forcefemming someone else...probably they wouldn’t think of it on their own? But especially if it was kind of allowing a partner to be more themself while not being comfortable just DOING that, they’d probably be open to it.

bradwick: WOW. All together, probably not! That seems complex! Separately: Angry sex, I can see being a ‘sort of’? Like. Angry and stays that way, unlikely - definitely not hatesex. Angry with someone they already care about or are attracted to and the tension leads into sex? Yes, w bonus points for it becoming softer/makeup-y partway bc we love feels here

Cock worship -- also you’re going to have to tell me if you want to know about a Not Teddy person, haha. Teddy is actually one of the highest on my list for this one. Body worship in general but they’re also a fan of oral on like. Everybody. And not too shy about dirty talk, so it fits neatly. (The other most into it is Grantaire.)

Partner swap: COMPLETELY dependent on what it involves. Two couples both there, watching (ooh and/or instructing, in a ‘he loves it when you do X’ kinda way) each other? Hot. (Could also work with just one other person.) Just swinging or more humiliation based, eh shrug. Not averse, just doesn’t care.

yeah I think Kizuna stumbling into forcefem would be like... Teddy explains their past and potential interest includes a decent amount of BDSM tropes. Kizuna is like. with all due respect I do not quite understand this. though it is a shame that you are a multigendered person I deeply because this finishing school femininity stuff is extremely charming. hm.

* I deeply respect

also like... I don't really have a plan for forcefem. but I will say. that like with Kizzy and Teddy having the "you work on me then I work on you" type of AFAB/AFAB sex in our existing thread. it would be VERY easy to adapt into a fresh thread if that opportunity is what arises

crabgirl: lolll I love the sideways falling into this from ‘idgi’ to ‘wait...’

haha a good point! I would be down for it! Hopefully I should be having more time in a few weeks (and SOME more time in like a week - I’ll be on vacation but some will be busy and some will be ‘this time is blocked out to do nothing’) and I can catch up!

yeah I'm going to be near totally afk for a thanksgiving trip myself

lol, noooooo, not all at once, that would be a lot. Angry sex I was thinking more like... not angry at the person having sex with just "I am angry/frustrated and am going to work through it with sex."

bradwick: oh that is actually a GOOD IDEA. Let’s put that adrenaline into something more useful!
....i mean given politics they might get nothing else done ever, but