papermint tiger
1 months ago
[Elementary] definitely one of the best of the Sherlock adaptations
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papermint tiger
1 months ago
as i rapidfire cycle through shows, apparently
papermint tiger
1 months ago
fresh out of rehab and instantly well known to the cops as a consultant
papermint tiger
1 months ago
wonder how he swung that
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papermint tiger
1 months ago
oh right, they explain that
papermint tiger
1 months ago
also the only one where he keeps bees, as far as i know
papermint tiger
1 months ago @Edit 1 months ago
which is a fun nod to the books
papermint tiger
1 months ago
hate to break it to you Holmes but if you have two alarm clocks maybe you're just a night owl
papermint tiger
1 months ago
god knows i need three if i want to wake up at a scheduled time
papermint tiger
1 months ago
instead of just whenever i happen to wake up
papermint tiger
1 months ago
oh fuck offffff, she's clearly just fucking exhausted
papermint tiger
1 months ago
OH FUCK OFF WITH THIS MORNING PERSON PROPAGANDA
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i forgot how much he harped on this
papermint tiger
1 months ago
...i do like how they really highlight how cops don't actually want to solve cases, they just want to stamp a 'solved' on the file and put it away
papermint tiger
1 months ago
any Sherlock is definitely strongest in that, where Sherlock can slip in and go 'uh, you're wrong'
papermint tiger
1 months ago
'if he's wrong, he's wrong. But i want to know he's wrong'
papermint tiger
1 months ago
such a good line
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i keep comparing this to BBC Sherlock in my head and i struggle to articulate this properly but
papermint tiger
1 months ago
these cases feel more 'real'
papermint tiger
1 months ago
even if they're of course exaggerated for the sake of Sherlock solving them
papermint tiger
1 months ago
but BBC's feel more ridiculous, just a touch
papermint tiger
1 months ago
Sherlock is such a child XD
papermint tiger
1 months ago
...but Joan shouldn't have stepped into the whole Irene issue tbh
papermint tiger
1 months ago
is that Cuddy
papermint tiger
1 months ago
lmao nice it is
papermint tiger
1 months ago
gosh, good thing this suspect Sherlock saw on a random talk show just so happens to live in New York City
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
Moffat has extreme "i am very clever and i have to show everyone how clever i am"itis, so yeah he tends to make the Sherlock cases overcomplicated and overwrought (and sometimes nonsensical because he's prone to outsmarting himself)
papermint tiger
1 months ago
yeah, good point
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i think the one that sticks out most is Hound of the Baskervilles for whatever reason
papermint tiger
1 months ago
but i suppose that one is one of the most well known and popular stories so he probably felt he had to do it justice and overdid it instead
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
"Moffat felt he had to do it justice and overdid it instead" basically sums up everything he does without adult supervision
papermint tiger
1 months ago
very true
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
anyway as with every time Sherlock Holmes is mentioned i'm just gonna mention how amazingly good the Granada series was
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
Jeremy Brett <3 <3 <3
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i need to finish watching that, yeah
papermint tiger
1 months ago
as it happens i think i stopped at Baskervilles
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
yeah no there... are things that I liked about Sherlock, compared to the Median Contemporary TV Show, but I can't say I liked it very much overall, and definitely not as Sherlock Holmes interpretations go
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
(as usual with Moffat, the better stuff also tended to be earlier on, when he wasn't as established as showrunner and hadn't gotten far down the spiral of trying to outclever himself)
papermint tiger
1 months ago
yeah... his early Who stuff was decent, even if i am slowly starting to detest the standalone stuff he wrote under RTD's direction
papermint tiger
1 months ago
(i never liked Midnight)
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
...yeah I have very mixed feelings about Midnight.
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
I 100% absolutely stand by The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances and the Library two-parter tho
papermint tiger
1 months ago
as time has gone on i think that my main issue with Midnight is twofold: one, he broke the cardinal rule of Doctor Who, which is 'people are inherently good' because literally everyone but one person turned on the Doctor the moment they thought they were all going to die
papermint tiger
1 months ago
yes, that's a thing that is also part of human instinct, but this is the wrong show to bring that up on
papermint tiger
1 months ago
and two, he broke the cardinal rule of liminal spaces and showed the monster
papermint tiger
1 months ago
well, he showed it as in there is a monster at all
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
yeah it's... it's not completely wrong to touch on it, but to make that the entire theme of the story is... egh...
papermint tiger
1 months ago
it could have been so much better
papermint tiger
1 months ago
but yeah if you must touch on it there could have been one or two of them who argued for getting rid of him, not the whole damn party
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i will agree that the Empty Child and the Library two parters were great
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
but we can't blame Moffat for Midnight, that's a Rusty baby
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i'm torn on Blink because it falls apart if you look at it too hard--oh is it, whoops
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
...which is also why I was not swept up in the enthusiasm for Rusty coming back
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
he did some good work but he also did some "nothing else matters as much as making David Tennant make those pretty sad faces" work
papermint tiger
1 months ago
yeah...
papermint tiger
1 months ago
oooh right, this guy is taking the fall for her
papermint tiger
1 months ago
other reasons i like this version of Sherlock: he's willing to admit when he's wrong
papermint tiger
1 months ago
it's very refreshing
papermint tiger
1 months ago
another thing, thinking about adaptations
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i love the RDJ movies, they're so much fun. However.
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i really wonder how many modern adaptations took the ideas proposed in the movies and ran with them
papermint tiger
1 months ago
Irene Adler being some kind of criminal with deep ties to Moriarty, for example
papermint tiger
1 months ago
and also Sherlock experimenting on unsuspecting beings. First a dog in the movies, then Watson in the BBC version
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
.......yeah for all it's flaws I will definitely take BBC Sherlock over the RDJ movies. >_>
Exacerangutan
1 months ago
IMO "streetfighting superhero who tries to impress random women by showing off his powers of deduction by guessing wildly for no reason (and being super wrong)" isn't Sherlock Holmes, it's Tony Stark cosplaying as Sherlock Holmes
papermint tiger
1 months ago
i mean, fair
papermint tiger
1 months ago
lmao i'm so amused that Watson has started picking up Sherlock's habits (stealing evidence)
papermint tiger
1 months ago
the other reason i love this adaptation
papermint tiger
1 months ago
Bell is also learning how to deduct things
papermint tiger
1 months ago
the Sherlock effect is spreading and it's delightful
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