首先，全書（在角色介紹完後的）第一句是

「荷魯斯殺死帝皇那一天，我就在現場」

：啊？啊？？？

對啦這個 the Emperor 不是金色的那位，但連殘破的屍體坐在黃金王座上這個畫面都搬出來只能是惡意

（我很喜歡的那種）

荷魯斯出場那幾行就給人一種魅力點到 18 的感覺（當然，是洛肯視角）

突然覺得當雲觀眾是件很糟的事，因為我對他之前的印象來自死亡與終結的節錄（還有 already suffering from some pretty serious daddy issue by LORE）

那個短片不知為何消失了

目前讀到第四章，覺得前三章穿插不同角色視角的節奏蠻好的，已經鋪陳了凡人和星際戰士（+ 原體）的緊張關係，也透過洛肯和記敘者、演說家的互動帶出對大遠征的質疑

荷魯斯出場時的橋段寫得挺妙，除了他「殺死帝皇」以外，洛肯看到的他就是神（甚至不是將他比喻成神，他看見的真的就是天降神兵來救場）

之後在洛肯叫他姓氏的時候笑著回「別這麼正式」那段也是 讓人很想知道他是怎麼滑落到死亡與終結裡面那樣的（

推坑的朋友：什麼都可以怪艾瑞巴斯

另外刺激到我單獨發一噗的是這段

也是洛肯視角

He imagined himself at the Emperor’s side, fighting some great, last stand against an unknown foe. Primarch Horus would be there, of course. He had to be. It wouldn’t be the same without him. Loken would battle, and die, and perhaps even Horus would die, to save the Emperor at the last.

以帝國粉 / 荷魯斯粉絲的讀者視角來說，這種角色思路描寫根本是在往觀眾心臟插旗吧

幸好我不是（。

還滿期待之後洛肯跟記敘者的互動

一開始記敘者想問他開頭那場戰役的詳情
洛肯：ㄜ我可能沒有記得很清楚
記敘者：你的同事不是這麼說的
之前在到處跟別人說「荷魯斯殺死帝皇那一天我就在現場」的洛肯：

洛肯跟記敘者說「你要叫他戰帥」那句讓我笑出來，之後記敘者抱怨星際戰士很臭的部分也是（

沒錯！都是艾瑞巴斯的錯

洛肯在加入荷魯斯的小議會（還沒找中文翻譯）時發誓那個橋段讓我想到詹姆•蘭尼斯特，未知的前路、守不住的誓言

不過目前洛肯看起來正常很多，可喜可賀（嗯？

kevin443: 好期待看到他出場ww

dreamofeternalsorrow: 沒艾瑞巴斯30K根本不會有那麼多破事

突然想到之前刷到的一張迷因

「你面前有福格瑞姆、洛嘉跟艾瑞巴斯，但你的爆能槍只剩兩發，你要打誰」
基里曼：我射艾瑞巴斯兩槍

推坑的朋友：再拿爆能槍狠狠敲他

For the first time, the first true and proper time since he’d left Terra, he felt the poet in him respond. This feeling excited him. He had begun to fear that he might have accidentally left his poetry behind on Terra in his hurry to embark, or at least that it malingered, folded and unpacked, in his quarters on the ship, like his least favourite shirt.

He felt the muse return, and it made him smile, despite the heat and the mummification of his throat.

這就是英式幽默嗎（

He felt a sudden pang. What if he had only nine volumes of genius left in him? What if that box of Bondsman Number 7’s, delivered so long ago, represented the creative limits of his career?

‘Perhaps we are cursed,’ Karkasy told the empty fane, ‘to crave something which does not exist. There are no gods, no spirits, no daemons. So we make them up, to comfort ourselves.’

先森，我有一個壞消息要告訴你

Horus had ever been the brightest, the first and the favourite. They did not doubt his fitness for the role, for none of the primarchs had ever matched Horus’s achievements, nor the intimacy of his bond with the Emperor.

不要……再……立旗了……

Dorn sighed. ‘The Emperor has no like, Loken. There are no gods in this hollow universe to keep him company. So he made us, demigods, to stand beside him.‘

先森（ry

多恩希望洛肯可以給荷魯斯誠實的諫言、指引他

我🫠

差點忘記貼，洛肯視角的荷魯斯

荷魯斯在腐化前真的就是完美超人

目前貼的都是他下屬 / 子嗣視角，我其實還滿好奇其他原體怎麼看他的

除了萊恩和柯拉克斯之外其他人跟荷魯斯的關係都不錯，然後跟瑪格努斯還有可汗關係特別好

‘I hate to see men die for no reason. I hate to see men give their lives like this, for nothing. For a belief in nothing. It sickens me. This is what we were once, Nero. Zealots, spiritualists, believers in lies we’d made up ourselves.’

猴子視線游移

‘Now they have met real immortals,’ Vipus quipped. ‘It’s a hard lesson, but they’ll be better for it in the long run.’
Loken shrugged. ‘I just empathise, I suppose. Their lives were comforted by mysteries, and we’ve taken that comfort away. All we can show them is a hard and unforgiving reality in which their lives are brief and without higher purpose.’

@帝國真理

This was madness. This could not be. Astartes had turned upon Astartes. A Luna Wolf had murdered his own kind. Every law of fraternity and honour that Loken understood and trusted had just been torn as easily as a cobweb. The insanity of this crime would echo forever.

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看一看忍不住又跑去雲

嗯，要怪的人太多了，就怪艾瑞巴斯吧（合掌）

不知道，看到這裡的時候我很可以理解之前雲到基里曼醒來後的崩潰，還有不知道是誰說的那句「你們的上上善道總有一天也會背叛你們」

這種理性和非理性反轉的不適感好讚喔（

荷魯斯安撫洛肯的段落好好看

所以到底為什麼最後會跳水成那樣

講到帝皇退出大遠征

‘Which is?’ Loken waited for an answer, expecting some transcendent truth.
What the Warmaster said was, ‘I don’t know. He didn’t tell me. He hasn’t told anyone.’

Horus paused. For what seemed like an age, the wind banged against the longhouse shutters. ‘Not even me,’ Horus whispered. Loken sensed a terrible hurt in his commander, a wounded pride that he, even he, had not been worthy enough to know this secret.

前面有一段洛肯遇到危險時想說不可以辜負戰帥（然後爬起來再戰），這邊 ->

‘What if he fails?’ Loken asked.
‘He won’t,’ the Warmaster replied bluntly.
‘What if we fail?’
‘We won’t,’ Horus said, ‘because we are his true servants and sons. Because we cannot fail him.’

在性轉荷魯斯的圖底下看到的留言：

This is your daily "fuck you Erabus" comment

‘So an alien war is a delight to me,’ the Warmaster continued, still smiling. ‘A clear and simple foe. An opportunity to wage war without restraint, regret or remorse. Let us go and be warriors for a while, pure and undiluted.’

@攝政ㄈ……

Ignace Karkasy was a poet and, it appeared, an idiot. He didn’t know when to shut up. On a surface visit to Sixty-Three Nineteen, he had wandered away from the legitimate areas of visit, got drunk, and then shot his mouth off to such an extent he had received a near-fatal beating from a crew of army troopers.

‘He is going to be sent away,’ Mersadie said. ‘Back to Terra, in disgrace, his certification stripped away. It’s wrong, captain. Ignace is a good man…’
‘Really?’
‘No, all right. He’s a lousy man. Uncouth. Stubborn. Annoying. But he is a great poet, and he speaks the truth, no matter how unpalatable that is. Ignace didn’t get beaten up for lying.’

完全沒有關係但突然想到

高中時讀到地海第二冊，格得把恬娜的黑長袍變成漂亮的禮服、告訴她「你要我給你看些值得看的東西，我想讓你看看你自己」

：
朋：

然後她就把我的聊天室暱稱設成粉紅雷達機。

‘Captain, I could give someone a bad name just by standing next to them.’
That made Loken smile. He was beginning to like the man.

上個章節打異形蜘蛛那段真的是急轉直下，很降 san

而且我總有種感覺，聖血天使好像一直遇上這種破事？？？

‘ . . .Nothing goes past me. You will show me your soul on a regular basis.’
‘I promise, captain, though I warn you it’s an ugly, cross-eyed, crook-backed, club-footed soul.’
‘I’ve seen ugly,’ Loken assured him. ‘The third condition. A question, really. Do you lie?’

‘What did you say, remembrancer? What did you say that provoked honest troopers so far they took their fists to you?’
Karkasy cleared his throat and winced. ‘I said… I said the Imperium would not endure. I said that nothing lasts forever, no matter how surely it has been built. I said that we will be fighting forever, just to keep ourselves alive.’

推坑的朋跟我說這是帝國真理 approved 的概念

洛肯：Truth is what separates us from the xenos-breeds and the traitors.

你上禮拜（好啦我不知道確切時間線）還不知道亞空間耶（

這句在人類帝國真的過於諷刺

‘Karkasy?’
‘Sir?’
‘Look after Keeler, please. For me. You and Oliton. Make sure she’s not alone too often.’
‘Yes, captain. I will.’

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^每一次在戰鎚宇宙看見人性和溫情的我

艾多隆才沒講幾句話就給人一種很討厭的感覺（

很降 san 的兩章之後影月蒼狼來救場了，好耶

旁白說銀河中少有人認不出阿巴頓

是因為沖天炮嗎（？？？

He sank to one knee and bowed to Mathanual August.
‘I have come, as fast as I was able, to help you, sir,’ he said. He clasped August in an embrace. The Warmaster was smiling now. ‘I like a man who’s proud enough not to bend his knees to me,’ he said.

正常狀態的荷魯斯看一點就少一點（是在哭

‘Rise, please. Please. Get to your feet. A cheer or a round of applause will do me, not this futile grovelling.’
The fleet officers rose, cheering and applauding. He’d won them over. Just like that, thought Loken, he’d won them over. They were his now, forever.

之前跟朋友聊的時候還覺得洛肯視角有點太廚

現在感覺是平均廚度（

‘It’s unforgivable,’ said Aximand. ‘Simply unforgivable.’
‘We will forgive him, even so,’ Horus said.
‘Should we, lord?’ asked Loken.
‘I’ve shot men for less,’ said Abaddon.

突然有種他們在扮黑臉白臉的感覺

Eshkerrus rose to his feet. He glared across the table at Torgaddon. ‘Captain, you offend the honour of the Emperor’s Children.’
‘That may indeed be what I’m doing, yes,’ Torgaddon replied.

好兇，喜歡（

‘The Luna Wolves are feared anyway, so let them fear us. Let them hate us. . . Make them squirm in discomfort. They’ll get the message, but at the same time, the Warmaster will be seen as a benign conciliator.’
‘We’re his war dogs?’
‘So he doesn’t have to growl himself. Exactly.‘

‘Everyone thinks the Warmaster’s keenest talent is as a warrior. No one expects him to be a consummate politician. Watch him and learn, Garvi. Learn why the Emperor chose him as his proxy.’

這段比起他的人格魅力，更多是在展示他用來維繫這種魅力的才能

‘The Emperor isn’t a god, but he might as well be. He’s so far removed from the rest of mankind. Unique. Singular. Who does he call brother? No one! Even the blessed primarchs are only sons to him.’

我越來越想去找人類之主那本來看了

‘I appreciate your intervention, Torgaddon, for the situation was grave. Also, I understand that the Luna Wolves are not bred like proper men, with proper manners. So I’ll overlook your comment.’
‘That’s Captain Torgaddon,’ Torgaddon replied. ‘If I insulted you, in any way, let me assure you, I meant to.’

‘Do not speak my primarch’s name so irreverently, you bastard. Horus will—’
‘There you go again,’ Torgaddon sighed, pushing Eidolon away from him with a two handed shove to the lord’s breastplate. ‘He’s the Warmaster.’ Another shove. ‘The Warmaster. Your Warmaster. Show some cursed respect.’

托迦頓超兇的，好喜歡喔

It was, in Karkasy’s opinion, the finest achievement of the remembrancer programme to date: to remind the expedition warriors they were human, and to offer them some fun.
And to win rudely from them at cards.

Keeler 跟洛肯的對話好悲傷

‘Yes, you do. If a brother turns on his brothers again, will you cover that up too? How many have to turn before you act? One? A squad? A company? How long will you keep your secrets? What will it take for you to cast aside the fraternal bonds of the Legion and cry out “This is wrong!”?’

這本的聖吉列斯是黑髮 + 金色髮飾，洛肯形容他的時候只說「完美」

Sanguinius handed the helm to Raldoron and nodded to Tarvitz. ‘Thank you for this kindness, captain,’ he said. He looked across at Eidolon. ‘And to you, sir, my gratitude that you came to Frome’s help so urgently.’
Eidolon bowed, and seemed to ignore the dark glare the Warmaster was casting in his direction.

No two primarchs were as close as the Warmaster and the Angel. They had barely been out of each other’s company since Sanguinius’s arrival.

Horus could not bring himself to stand by and watch his dearest brother go to war. Horus could not resist the temptation of fighting shoulder to shoulder with Sanguinius, as they had done in the old days.
Horus would not let himself be outshone, even by the one he loved most dearly.

Sanguinius had also smoothed the way. He knew his brother Horus was keen to rebuke Fulgrim for the high-handed qualities his Astartes had lately displayed. Horus and Fulgrim were close, almost as close as Sanguinius and the Warmaster. It dismayed the Lord of Angels to see a potential rift in the making.

阿西曼德的綽號是小荷魯斯，荷魯斯也會叫他 little one

好可愛喔

‘Remember the start of my story?’ he asked. ‘What the Emperor said to me about the stars? Make no mistake, and they will be ours.’
He took another two bites, threw the fruit stone away, and swallowed the flesh before he continued. ‘Sanguinius, my dear brother, is right, for Sanguinius has always been my conscience.’

‘I will understand the interex, and learn from it, and parlay with it, and only then will I decide if it has strayed too far. They are a fine people. Perhaps we can learn from them for a change.’

哭了

荷魯斯逗完小孩後還會捏他們臉頰（

嗯哼

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我現在理解為什麼某篇寫原體的桌遊風格ㄉ同人文會寫說

「只要不把話題拐到戒指和星座書上，荷魯斯很好相處」

艾瑞巴斯出場ㄌ

這邊旁白表示論跟荷魯斯感情好的程度，聖吉列斯、洛嘉和福格瑞姆差不多

‘You resemble the enemy we have been raised from birth to anticipate. The all-conquering, unrelenting daemon of Kaos-war. The bloody-handed god of annihilation.’

‘Enemy?’ Horus laughed. ‘When did they become the enemy? They are men like us.’ He glared up at the night sky, threw back his head and screamed a curse at the stars. Then his voice fell to a whisper. Loken was close enough to hear his words.

‘

Why have you tasked me with this, father? Why have you forsaken me? Why? It is too hard. It is too much. Why did you leave me to do this on my own?’

好難形容這種絕望感