so with damian i think the amount of people he'd actually give a shovel talk for numbers much lower than you would think and it doesn't necessarily overlap with closeness. he might give one for dick but it'd be a fairly light one that consists of "don't hurt him or else. but also if he hurts you i will also kick him in the dick. in the interest of justice."

HAJDHSJ perfect

whereas with someone like..... maps, maybe maya... or god forbid LIZZIE when she's older. we are talking like. he wouldn't even give a "shovel talk" so much as leave a knife stabbed into their pillow right next to their sleeping head with a gold trimmed engraving on the blade that just says "don't break their heart."

chainsawman: it's what he would want 😔

yeah.

it's largely girls because he's grown from being a tiny misogynist to well meaning chauvinism but he would also probably include jon if it was like. younger jon, who he's a lot more protective of. if he was genuinely worried about jon's partner being a bad influence then he'd probably still do it. which he'd probably do for tim or steph too begrudgingly

aelwyn meanwhile uh

well there's only one person she would give a shovel talk for and it's for her little sister. ordinarily i think she would give a mildly frightening shovel talk but as an avatar she wouldn't be able to stop herself from using a shovel talk as an excuse to feed so. we're talking a level of intimidation that will follow them into their fucking nightmares.

nobody wants her to do this.

least of all Adaine

least of all adaine!!!