*the best thing is watching letsplayers who have lived in Detroit because they're all "yooooo this bit is near my house!
"
*Connor constantly sounds like he's been either screaming for days or has just recovered from a painful sore throat, and the actor doesn't seem to sound like that normally (nor do other androids), so I can't stop wondering why the voice director made that decision??
*the most important part of any game: you get to pet the dog<3
*it's really interesting to compare the animation with bg3; the latter is so much more open-world, while the former integrates cut scenes with moving-around scenes much more seamlessly
*(and also doesn't have the aesthetics issue of the inside of the mouth being too visible/lit)
(which is not a criticism, just something that bothers me specifically)
*dbh does reward exploration in each mission area, but the game is so linear that most areas are exclusive to one mission
*Hank: "so do you plan on staying in that elevator?"
Connor: [exactly the opposite of Flynn's "yEaH?"]
????why is this a question did I miss something
What I get for missing out on Spongebob: everyone keeps saying they can't unhear Hank as Mr. Krabs (same actor), but I won't be able to unhear Mr. Krabs as Hank
*Ironic that humans use it/its for androids but literally all androids are designed to look masculine or feminine
(and swiftly revert to gendered pronouns after deviating)
help people In The Comments are arguing that Hank (canonically a millennial) is a boomer because he's old and then doubling down that millennial and boomer are age categories rather than birth-decade categories
was going to say something about how inconsistently death is handled when people can just be repaired and reactivated, but tbh the fact that restorative technology exists doesn't help if you can never expect to have access to it
If Connor had just stepped to one side and deviated the guy nearest to the elevator, 60 would have been too late to do anything, but nooooo, Connor had to walk all the way to the middle of the room first because he's that extra. And that's where 60 was waiting for him because 60 is identically extra.
Hilarious that I primarily know Lance Henricksen (Carl) from
Aliens, where he WAS an android
so someone pointed out something a little... interesting? baffling? that the game might have the grumpy "you technokids get off my lawn" character's age be such that they fit right into the Grumpy Old Technoincompetent Guy stereotypes, but logically, he is a millennial... so the chances of him having the particular tech-grumps he does would be low.
Yeah, there are definitely some... choices... made in some of the characterization XD
I wouldn't say millennials won't be technophobic, because there's always a new get-off-my-lawn I-like-the-familiar-one-better technology and there'll definitely be some more by the 2030s.
He doesn't seem that technoincompetent to me, though; he just has issues with android technology and the way it's been deployed into society (and the universal experience of being annoyed at having to set passwords), and tbf a lot of those issues are what we're experiencing with today's "AI."
Technology being deployed to cynically tap into behavioral psychology in ways that maximize profit while "incidentally" increasing dependence and class inequality, stuff that would be legitimate issues even if the androids hadn't developed sapience.
I wouldn't mind reading those remarks if they're public, though; I'm an observer from outside the fandom and it's always interesting to see people going in-depth about characterization!
They do lean into grumpy-old-Hank and I'd love to see what people say about how they did/didn't include his being a millennial.
oh, it was ages ago. I just thought it was kinda hilarious and stuck with me - especially since I haven't gotten into DBH myself. I think it might've been in a piece about the guy that made the game and how he certainly does make some choices, all right....
XD That definitely tracks.
man, I bet there's so much fic based on how Kara can recover her memory if Zlatko succeeds in wiping it but she escapes and finds the relevant clues in time.
and I bet there's an equal amount of "but that's a jury-rigged basement machine, regular wiped androids wouldn't be able to do that."
ah, being in fandom long enough to anticipate the currents. XD
Heroically resisting the urge to go down the how-they-could-have-fixed-it doomspiral. I wouldn't be able to find the same trove of meta critiques I read back when it was new and scrolling through algorithmic content would just be depressing.
It's out there already; I don't have to rip my head open to lay out what was badly done.
on the bad holocaust metaphors front, I did that already for Tron Legacy
Back in the day, we had to wade through communities IN THE SNOW UPHILL BOTH WAYS to find the discourse. It's much more accessible now, despite the drawbacks of algorithmic sorting, and I don't have to be the instructor. Enough to hold space for what I don't know and keep learning.
not cool that the second yk500 was only seen in order to Make Kara Conflicted and then Kara just walks off and leaves this other child alone and we never find out what happened to her
same with the prone kid Markus saw earlier in the game; he was solely there To Make Markus Sad and then the actual problem of a kid shutting down was never revisited (tbc this happened to a bunch of adults too but it was just egregeous to do it with kids)
did they escape the explodey sinking boat full of armed hostiles? We Just Don't Know
(unless they show up in a later scene and I don't know about it!)
SUMO IS THE BEST USELESS DOG<3
Hank: Sumo, attack!
Sumo: bwoofs, tailwag
he's a St Bernard and he's ENORMOUS and very chill
beautiful and extremely accurate
if anything it undersells how HUGE Sumo is<3
all the letsplays I've seen so far have had Connor learn his name before meeting him; I wonder what would happen if he didn't
man, the number of letsplayers who initially aren't sure how to pronounce Io (the Galilean moon) because the font makes it look like 10
and a lot of them didn't focus their nerdery on Solar System objects like I did and didn't know Io was a thing
always good to remember that there is so much to know that it's very easy for peoples' spheres of knowledge to just not overlap here and there
they are that day's lucky 10,000th person who is now learning about Io~
(IO HAS SO MANY ACTIVE VOLCANOES AND IS VERY NEAT
)
to be entirely fair to them I only know of Io from my (short and sawed-off) Clarke phase at 9-ish so yeah man, knowledge accrues!
and getting to be the lucky 10kth customer is such a fun feeling!
there's stuff left to know in the world, and it's usually beautiful stuff! (I am agreeing at you excitedly because this is affection in ADHD, let me know if I need to stop
yes
exactly, that one xkcd strip always gives me That Feeling~ and look, I have neeped excitedly at you for exactly the same reasons, you are always welcome to be AAAAA about things in here
such as: I think I first heard "neepery" from Neil Gaiman but was today years old when I looked it up and found
Trivia or highly-detailed information, especially that which an author includes in a work of fiction as a result of research
this just in: Flynn and co. definitely knew this word and used it all the time
but yeah look at this pretty pretty nonsense moon. this is going on up there
all the time.
Neep-neep??? that's so fun oh my gosh
it really is!
ok, my personal Minor Beef(tm) with the animation is the painting scene. The brush touches the palette like a virtual brush selecting a color from a jpg. The paint on the palette is utterly flat with no texture or lumps; it's picked up dry and no new paint is ever put on it and no water is ever used.
Today in Things That Don't Work Like that, etc.
It'd be convenient if it did, but it doesn't. XD
I get why the pacing doesn't allow for the paint to be an actual minigame, but so much of the rest of the game is so realistic that it really stands out to me.
The game does have a bunch of genuine humor. When Connor looks in the interrogation room mirror and the cops on the other side are just ????????
This popped up on the Tumblr radar and I thought of our discussion:
Clopina
Awwwww!
Heee, what a good cuddlepile!
<3