mrplough07
hates
people are on here to raise their Karma. Edublogging, learning, contributing to our PLN's is not about being more popular! Its about kids.
kwhobbes
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but, but, but can't we have fun too! 
mstina
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of course, but having fun while at it.
kwhobbes
thinks
that if we're always serious, we'll lose the kid side and then we'll just be boring adults talking about edubloggin, learning & other stuff.
mrplough07
says
not what Im saying at all. raising Karma represents a concern over being popular which signifies in it for wrong reasons!
mrplough07
says
Im as fun as the next guy, cant you tell 
kwhobbes
says
why do you think raising karma is about popularity? What about all those people on twitter who follow 1000's? Isn't that the same?
lizbdavis
says
I follow a lot of people on Twitter because lots of people follow me. But I have to admit I have always wanted to be famous.
kwhobbes
says
being famous might not be all it's cracked up to be - just look at all those famous stars - they have more trouble than nnorris' 17 yr old!
mrplough07
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kwhobbes, funny we are having same conversation on 2 sites, simultaneously but with slight differences
mrplough07
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Hard to imagine KArma is designed for any other reason than to rank popularity, and that Plurk loves that people focus on it cuz means more
mrplough07
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users
mrplough07
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Im just saying, I wish people werent so concerned with trying to be popular.
mrplough07
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Should be about quality of ideas you can contribute
kwhobbes
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that karma might be about getting some people involved but if they don't have anything to say, they soon are blocked away. It evolves to
kwhobbes
says
being about the discussions and the networking. Just like twitter did for many people whom I follow. For some, it is a popularity thing,
kwhobbes
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just like blogging. They worry about their ranking and the # of visitors. I mean, even someone like VickiDavis even mentions it - and she's
kwhobbes
says
not about being popular. It's part of this social network just like technorati is part of blogging. Some worry about it, some don't!
lizbdavis
says
I understand the technorati thing much more than the Karma thing. I have a lot of Karma and it really doesn't make any difference.
lizbdavis
says
at least Technorati is some indication that people are reading what you have to say.
mrplough07
says
I get that
kwhobbes
says
well, maybe. Isn't technorati based on the # of links to your site? If that is the case, you can have many readers but a low rating.
kwhobbes
says
so those people who are popular get quoted more and have a high ranking or those who say controversial things have more links and a higher
lizbdavis
thinks
mrplough07 is a little grumpy tonight. 
Notice I added an emoticon that you can only use if you have >50 Karma 
Notice I added an emoticon that you can only use if you have >50 Karma
mrplough07
says
Just WISH people refocused, ask themselves "why am I saying this or doing this, why am I concerned about how many followers I have ? things
mrplough07
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I mean, did people get into education to be popular?
kwhobbes
says
ranking. Either way, it comes down to popularity. Not that popularity is bad, it is just what it is.
kwhobbes
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some people did! It was a way for them to have their egos grow and education was the only avenue that they could find to have that happen.
lizbdavis
says
I tried to make it on Broadway, settled for education as my path to fame and fortune.
another >50 karma emoticon! I like your style! 
lizbdavis
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but seriously I get what you are saying. I find it ironic that I have a lot of Karma since I really don't care about it.
kwhobbes
says
I wanted to be a professional hockey player - didn't happen so here I am a principal.
lizbdavis
says
and I agree that I want this to be a place to stretch my learning. The role of popularity is a tricky one.
kwhobbes
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lizdavis & mrplough07, that's the point - the karma just happens. I don't care at all - well, except for the cool emoticons.
lizbdavis
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that is why I like being able to mute conversations.
kwhobbes
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but to be heard, you have to be somewhat popular or at least have enough to say so that others will continue to follow you and not block U!
lizbdavis
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I find the whole issue of "fame" within the edubloggosphere very interesting. Teaching is supposed to be a selfless profession.
kwhobbes
has
been known to block those people who have nothing to add to the conversations at some point.
lizbdavis
says
I think teachers tend to feel bad when they think too much about themselves. It has to be about the kids or it is selfish.
kwhobbes
has
often thought that there is a big difference between what we do as teachers and the world of the edubloggosphere. They are not the same!
mrplough07
hates
kwhobbes, its okay to have a high Karma if you dont care but when people post cuz they have raised it to certain levels, that seems wrong
lizbdavis
thinks
that it is ironic that this conversation probably made mrplough07 's Karma go up. 
mrplough07
says
thats messed up, wasnt trying to say I hate kwhobbes, purk messed with me
mrplough07
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lizdavis, you are being funny tonight, stop making me giggle, Im grumpy, like you said
kwhobbes
says
As a principal, I don't worry about getting credit for what happens as long as it is good for students. As a person, I do like credit
lizbdavis
says
thanks for starting an interesting discussion. I have to go to bed now (it is really late here). 
mrplough07
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lizdavis, I agree it has to be about kids, thats why I called out fact edubloggers in our PLN were worried about popularity, go to myspace
lizbdavis
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5 straight days of learning (EBCE and BLC) makes a person pretty silly and keeps one up way too late.
kwhobbes
says
Even if you did, it's all part of the world of the social network.
kwhobbes
says
As for wanting popularity, if that is something that happens in a particular PLN, then, yes, I see your point! Those people shouldn't be
kwhobbes
says
looking for popularity. They should be working together to build the network - helping one another learn and, in that way, helping students
mrplough07
says
Another interesting conversation Mr. KWhobbes, I have a new one
kwhobbes
says
a new what? Conversation? Or emoticon?
mrplough07
says
A new conversation, I started a new post you already responded too. But not that you mention it, cool hang loose emoty